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Oh yes I know of Mick; he was big (just retired correct?). I can't recall if he won Westminster or just missed it, but he did win Crufts, rite? I saw Kerrys plenty in dog shows, but seeing WPGs was almost never (once at Old Dominion), and even Sussex and Clumbers were more rare. (This was 15 years ago when I was quite into it; have only seen a tiny bit since.) Generally I always got to see each of the Terriers. ;-) I'm afraid $1200 is a drop in the bucket compared to many Euro GSD pups; if you're lucky you can get 1 that cheap from half-decent bloodlines (or should I say, popular). I have managed to find some cheap Euro-lined pups for no more than most American lines, but they're - really cheap! (I love the 2 I bought in the last couple years but they do have problems; the 1st 1 I sold cuz I couldn't handle her issues as a pet.) Anyway I believe alot of "top" pups would go for that much. Rarity doesn't help cost, either; altho sometimes it actually does if no1 wants them!