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To: BlackElk
So, Mike: If you agree with SSPX that Catholic Doctrine changes, will you be entering the SSPX?
A. No, I don't plan to enter the SSPX though I did accidentally attend an SSPX service in Bath, England about 20 years ago. The only really positive thing I can say about SSPX is that they at least admit that certain Catholic doctrines changed radically with Vatican II.

Change can be good -- there was a time when Southern Baptist churches had an official policy of racial segregation and excluded blacks from worship. Thank heavens they had the sense to change and repent of this horrible sin.

B. Are you asserting that Catholic doctrine doesn't change? If you are, then how do you square Unam Sanctum with Vatican II? If one doctrine is true than the other doctrine isn't, no matter how much intellectual dancing one does.

Semper eadem does a death spiral on this topic and papal infallibility is on life support.


376 posted on 02/10/2004 5:39:48 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike; ninenot; SoothingDave; sandyeggo; Tantumergo
First (concededly non-responsive) I agree with the late (?) Rev. Mr. Criswell of the Dallas Theological Seminary that "a church begins to die when its throat is grasped by the palsied hand of liberalism."

Next, bear in mind that I am no scholar. I am a street-fighting elk. For scholarship, try the other folks I have bumped here or maybe they will suggest others.

Next, I suspect that the Southern Baptists never held to racial segregation as a matter of theology but simply as a practice within the ciontext of a segregated society. It is a fact that those outside Catholicism suspect it of CHANGING doctrines. It does not. Truth does not change with time. Although you see things differently as to some doctrines, I think you must and will agree that truth does not change with time. If it were otherwise, your presumed belief in sola Scriptura (since the Scriptures do not change) would make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I am not familiar with Unam Sanctam or Semper eadem. Vatican II is too broad a category to be compared to anything. It issued specific documents. They were approved by Paul VI. Many were somewhat ambiguous in language which has caused much consternation among Catholics as you have probably noticed. The Truth, in and event, always continues to be the Truth, unchanged and unchangeable. We may differ as to specifics, but I believe that we would both say that.

Papal infallibility is papal infallibility. It is doctrine. It is dogma. It is true. You disagree. I understand that you disagree. That is one reason but only one why you are not Catholic. I am.

406 posted on 02/11/2004 3:02:48 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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