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To: missyme
May I ask you this?

Who was responsible for Jesus's arrest? who wanted to see him executed? who beleived Jesus was leading Israel astray? practicing sorcery? who was in the crowd when Pontuis Pilate said "Should I let Jesus go? or Barabbas? Who took Jesus off the cross and to the tomb? who visioned the Resurrection? who spent 40 days with Jesus before he descended into Heaven? Do you know the answers to these questions?

    I haven't seen the movie.
  1. Caiphas (Caiphas was appointed High-Priest of the Jews by the Roman procurator Valerius Gratus, the predecessor of Pontius Pilate)
  2. Caiphas, Annas (a previous Roman appointed High Priest) and their Sadducee supporters
  3. Probably any rabbi who did not think he was the Messiah
  4. People who witnessed or heard of his miracles but did not believe they were from G-d (similar to some faith healers I suppose)
  5. Perhpas 200-300 Jewish Zealots who were there on behalf of their comrade BarAbbas, some other Jewish collaborators, and some Gentiles. That makes it what, from 0.005 to .01 % of the Jewish people alive at the time depending on the numbers you use.
  6. Simeon of Cyrene, father of Rufus and Alexander, a Jew from North Africa in Jerusalem for the Passover
  7. Yoseph of Aritmathea, a righteous Jew who happened to make a good living
  8. Miriam and Miriam
  9. 120 Jews

LAST: Jesus Christ is alive and well and seated at the right hand of the Father...

Is that in the movie ? If not, why not ?

    May I ask you this?
  1. Who crucified myriads of Jews ?
  2. Who tortured Jews ?
  3. Who burned Jews to death ?
  4. Who burned them in their synagogues ?
  5. Who raped their wives, mothers, and daughters ?
  6. Who skinned them alive ?
  7. Who expelled them from their lands and took their possessions ?
  8. Who stole their children from them ?
  9. Who tried to kill every living Jew to the third generation ?

Do you know the answers to these questions?

129 posted on 02/03/2004 4:34:23 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
Some of your answers are not totally correct, but I will try and give you the scriptual accounts for your answers,

In regards to your questions: There is no doubt that the Romans, from the Nazi's to the Palestinians and Radical Islamists are responsible for the death of many many Jews....

But this controversy is not Jews vs Jesus Christ? G-d comes before the Jews he comes before anything or anybody in this life...

No one is discounting the horrible deaths that The Jews have suffered through-out history....But this world is violent it always has been from the beginning of time...

This world will never have PEACE or dignity for others because EVIL exsists. That is why prayer and prostelyzing to others that do not know G-d is so important.

Christians presently in the most hostile countries are dying with extreme torture for there beleif, yet they still keep the FAITH hoping to bring others to Christ...

The Chinese are on a Pilgrimage to Israel and loosing many people on there journey.

TRUE CHRISTIANS are about LOVE and that is what the message of Christ is:
LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU....

Now my question to you:
How do you vision that there might be PEACE in the world, respect and dignity for others without the Love and Forgiveness of Jesus Y'SHUA Messiah?
134 posted on 02/03/2004 4:56:27 PM PST by missyme
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To: af_vet_1981
May I ask you this? Who crucified myriads of Jews ? Who tortured Jews ? Who burned Jews to death ? Who burned them in their synagogues ? Who raped their wives, mothers, and daughters ? Who skinned them alive ? Who expelled them from their lands and took their possessions ? Who stole their children from them ? Who tried to kill every living Jew to the third generation ? Do you know the answers to these questions?

What relevance do these questions have to the movie, The Passion? By the way, have you been to Normandy and seen all the crosses above the graves of Christians who died fighting Hitler? Have you heard tapes of Churchill's speeches in which he called the crusade against Hitler a fight for "Christian Civilization"? Do you know that at the Atlantic Conference, when FDR and Churchill planned joint efforts against Hitler, they sang, "Onward Christian Soldiers"?

206 posted on 02/03/2004 7:10:25 PM PST by churchillbuff (?)
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