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To: Darksheare; Guenevere
It was kinda weird and clumsy.... Sean Astin's behavior last night. He kinda sidled up to Bernard Hill as if to help him because he was dragging... and then he made some really clumsy comments about SAG and that his mother had been President of SAG and spoke against the latest trend in making films abroad instead of at home. (Interesting opinion for a guy accepting an award for a Kiwi-made film) He said it so clumsily I wouldn't have got the point if I hadn't seen the statement by SAG President Melissa Gilbert on the same theme: "Buy American" and stop going overseas to make movies cheaper. I didn't realize this was a current politic in Hollywood.

In the end.... John-Rys Davies (A Welshman...not one to have a lot of interest in "Buy American") did push him out of the way in a comedic way.... Perhaps just to save him because he was rambling so incoherently.

I think Sean is a nice man. I think his heart is in the right place. He is young and idealistic. He wants to be more than an actor, but he hasn't found his voice. I hope his good heart keeps him on the right side... even if he will never be conservative. There used to be good patriotic Democrats who would fight for what is right and fight for country. If he won't join our side, I hope he becomes one of those.
8,347 posted on 02/23/2004 9:55:33 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yeah, I kinda scratched my head over that one last night.
It seemed pretty weird.
Not sure what to think about it as I'm honestly not big on actors or TV myself.
So pretty much it was me sitting there with my eyes glazed over half paying attention.
*snort*
8,348 posted on 02/23/2004 10:02:08 AM PST by Darksheare ("I shall rule the world with an Iron Fist! Obey the fist!" - Invader Zim)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Wneighbor; My back yard; SusieQ; 2Jedismom; Corin Stormhands; All
It was kinda weird and clumsy.... Sean Astin's behavior last night. He kinda sidled up to Bernard Hill as if to help him because he was dragging... and then he made some really clumsy comments about SAG

Good ...afternoon. Couldn't sleep last night, so up and trying to start this Monday a bit late. Terry is off again to Dallas, then Huntsville, Ala next week.

"SAG-ing" after the "SAG' awards last night. Couldn't figure out Sean last night either, Hair. He can get somewhat "hyper", and from some of the cast members have said, he has major "control issues".
Read his mother, Patty Duke's two books, "Call Me Anna" and "A Brillant Madness" about her struggle with Manic/Depressive illness. It is a miracle that Sean can walk and talk and be the moral family man he is, coming from and working within that HW enviroment.
It almost seemed like he "spased out" from nerves or something. I think Tim Robbins may have "baited" this with his remark about "these run away productions in foreign countries taking American dollars" crap. His wife, made, what I thought was a rather vague dig at LOTR at the "Globes" by making some stupid statement about Tim Robbins' film being good on its on merits without the use of "special effects".
I could be overly senistive here, but I think both remarks were aimed at LOTR.
What I THINK Sean was trying to say last night was that he and his family have been a part of "SAG" and the Hollywood community for two generations and trying to make a plea for unity. It just think it didn't come out right. Although he is liberal, he is, I think, a "honest" one, otherwise, his thinking is darkened so he believes this is the "position" which shows the most compassion. I don't think he is liberal to "devour people" for power.
I do hope and pray for him to see truth and be a part of that.

Wish Elijah had been there as I think he is helpful in "stablizing" Sean, but kinda concerned about this stuff going on in New Orleans. Hope he manages to hold some kind of "witness"

Sorry on a soap box this am. Do hope you are all well and had a good weekend. Under the weather here for most of it. I guess I should shut up.
8,365 posted on 02/23/2004 12:04:49 PM PST by mstar
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To: HairOfTheDog
It was kinda weird and clumsy.... Sean Astin's behavior last night.

I didn't see that, but his mom had a similar experience of tripping out at the Academy Awards once, which is mentioned in her autobiography--maybe that was affecting him subconsciously or something. I agree he's young and idealistic and trying to find something to do with that. Hopefully John Rhys-Davies will help guide him in the right direction--that's kind of funny about John nudging Sean offstage humorously, I can just see that, LOL! :)

8,376 posted on 02/23/2004 12:55:08 PM PST by Fedora
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To: HairOfTheDog
Thanks so much for taking time to find it and respond!

Personally I'm a huge fan of Sean Astin, and everything I've read and seen of him so far, has been aboveboard and intelligent and thoughtful.

So I was just gobsmacked at his behavior last night.....seemed so out of character.

And embarrassing....
..I kept saying...Please stop...this is y'alls night to shine...don't ruin it!

Billy Boyd got a few words in, but the moment seemed ruined.

I've looked all over for reports this morning from Hollywoodworld, but any mention just gloss over the evening, and mostly mention Tim Robbins political ramblings.

Tis very strange....

8,403 posted on 02/23/2004 4:46:34 PM PST by Guenevere (..., .Press on toward the goal!)
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To: HairOfTheDog; All
WE WON THE SAG!!!!!

I've been dying to say that ever since I got a chance to watch the awards show last night. I still can't quite believe it, because this is finally more of an acknowledgement that there is far more than just fancy special effects to these movies.

Now that I have that off my chest...

I was embarrassed for Sean, but grateful to JRD, and I loved Billy Boyd talking about what he was doing before LOTR and now being in the same room with Clint Eastwood, etc. I bet the rest of the cast are kinda kicking themselves for not being there (except for Viggo, of course)...
8,502 posted on 02/23/2004 7:57:36 PM PST by Penny1
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