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Dating game becoming more like a chore
Winston-Salem Journal ^ | Thursday, January 8, 2004 | Kate Zernike

Posted on 01/08/2004 8:37:53 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves

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To: SCalGal
Maybe that's what's different. I never had barbie and ken. I had barbie and guns.

Not only did I have Barbie and Ken, I had Midge, Skipper, the dreamhouse.....the whole nine!

I grew up rural Ohio in the 50s and 60s, in a family where women were respected and protected.

I guess that's why reality eventually hit me in the face, so to speak.

201 posted on 01/08/2004 5:31:45 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: LisaMalia
...where women were respected and protected.

Dating now sure does show you that this has changed, doesn't it?

202 posted on 01/08/2004 5:38:51 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: Lazamataz
"Marry me right this very second."

"Too late."

That's okay, Laz. I don't believe in long engagements, but but I do prefer to warm my hands before jumping into a fire. That 1 second thing...well, it's just a tad hasty.

203 posted on 01/08/2004 5:39:47 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: SCalGal
Dating now sure does show you that this has changed, doesn't it? Sure does.
204 posted on 01/08/2004 5:43:01 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: LisaMalia
"Probably too real"

Yeah, that does seem to be a problem sometimes, but when you consider the alternative, wel, it's just kinda pointless to be any other way.

205 posted on 01/08/2004 5:43:05 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: sweetliberty
I've been holding onto my celibate lifestyle for over a year now. I guess I can hold out a bit longer. I just consider myself a "born again virgin"....:)
206 posted on 01/08/2004 5:45:56 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: Mark17
This is precisely why I went over seas for a woman,

A close friend of mine found his current spouse in Russia and have been quit happy now her in the U.S. for approx. 2 years now.

His divorce settlement, at the height of the recession, devastated his potential retirement funds and his current employer offers no pension plan. If he can not live comfortably on whatever wealth he can accumulate in the next 10 years, he intends to relocate to the Ukraine where by their standards whatever income he has will allow them to live quite comfortably there......

207 posted on 01/08/2004 5:45:58 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I've dealt with stupid people for over 32 years. Haven't I earned the right to just shoot them?)
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To: SCalGal
What is it with women who want a man to change? Honestly, I don't get it.

If you think that there is a relationship in the world that doesn't require both parties to change in very fundamental ways to make it work, you're wrong. Yes guys, you are going to have to change. Habits, perceptions, knee-jerk reactions, time management... sometimes even diet. And yes girls. YOU, ALSO, WILL HAVE TO CHANGE. In the best relationships, both parties willingly change for the better and are happier for it.

Women see the flaws in their men easier than they can admit their own. That is OUR biggest flaw. (Actually, I believe that is a human flaw, but I digress...) Thus, many times we're right about what the husband has to change. The problem is, too much of the time we drop our end of the couch in that department.

208 posted on 01/08/2004 5:50:47 PM PST by Marie (Laz, you touch my tag and die.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Hoosier women are great cooks, know how to shoot, and know how to take care of their men.

Indeed. Thats why I married an Illinois girl..

209 posted on 01/08/2004 5:50:53 PM PST by cardinal4 (Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
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To: 429CJ
I assume that 429CJ stands for 429 Cobra Jet; so you will understand that before I met my smart, beautiful, Republican fiance, I used to observe my dates' reactions to riding in my very fast muscle car. Love me, love my car.
210 posted on 01/08/2004 5:52:02 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Rebelbase
Don't fret about that, I think short chicks are cute. :-)

That's what I keep telling my daughter. In a family of 4'10' - 5'5" ladies, NONE of us have had trouble finding a man when we want one.

211 posted on 01/08/2004 5:52:10 PM PST by Marie (Laz, you touch my tag and die.)
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To: SCalGal
Well, I had two barbies, but prefered to play with cars, guns, and sports.

Maybe it made me the wife that I am today!

212 posted on 01/08/2004 5:54:05 PM PST by Maigrey (Tagline Imported and assembled in 7th dimensional wealthy country)
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To: Maigrey
My mom insisted on buying me barbies, but I really loved Star War Action Figures! *sigh!*
213 posted on 01/08/2004 5:56:05 PM PST by Marie (Laz, you touch my tag and die.)
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To: LisaMalia
"I've been holding onto my celibate lifestyle for over a year now"

I would be embarassed to say how long I've been celibate, but since I don't think of recreational sex as a viable option and I don't consider men interchangeable, I guess I will stay that way for the time being.

214 posted on 01/08/2004 5:57:51 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: sweetliberty
Most decent women have been screwed over by not so decent men too.

A lot of them make all the wrong choices in 'men', in part, because of their own collection of issues that kinda drives making those bad decisions ...

I can testify to that in, oh, three, maybe four people (women) I have known and continue, in a couple of cases, see on an irregular basis ...

Largely, though, I'd say it was the women who have 'screwed up' our society - those vocal, few feminists who have basically emasculated (literally: deprived a man of his male role or identity) the male in media/movies and to which the pop culture public pays some fair amount of attention to the detriment of our society as men 'lose' their ability to fulfill their role ...

A 'move' should have been made earlier by you gals to put those feminist hussies in their place early on and we most likely wouldn't be having this discussion!

(I just finished cooking a marvelous casserole for dinner using stewed tomatoes in place of just tomato sauce (I also used a can of tomato paste!) and served with sour cream or plain yogurt it tastes just *wonderful*!)

215 posted on 01/08/2004 5:58:59 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Marie
If you think that there is a relationship in the world that doesn't require both parties to change in very fundamental ways to make it work, you're wrong.

Everyone changes, and a couple who want to be together will change.

My point is there is something wrong with going into a relationship with the express intention of changing the other person.

216 posted on 01/08/2004 6:00:52 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: Marie
You too, huh?

I had a decent collection, and wish I still had them today.

Now, I'll settle for playing golf (with DH), watching a baseball game with DH, and baking desserts for both of us.

217 posted on 01/08/2004 6:01:38 PM PST by Maigrey (Tagline Imported and assembled in 7th dimensional wealthy country)
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To: Hot Tabasco
A close friend of mine found his current spouse in Russia and have been quit happy now her in the U.S. for approx. 2 years now.

Wonder what the Russian men are like? If all their women are absconding here, just think of all the hunky Russian men who are available and ready to relocate!.......;)

219 posted on 01/08/2004 6:03:31 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: _Jim
If I had been older, I would have stepped into the fray, but I'm just now old enough to keep from being thought of as a kid.

Now, I can step up, and work on inspiring and influencing those who are younger, and having to work through te liberal tripe.

220 posted on 01/08/2004 6:05:18 PM PST by Maigrey (Tagline Imported and assembled in 7th dimensional wealthy country)
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