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To: hummingbird; JustPiper; Pro-Bush; All
Can you direct me to the significance of "19" post

The number "19" has some sort of significance to the jihadists. I've never understood what it was.
Out of curiosity I Googled "Koran - 19" and came up with all kinds of sites. One consistency I noticed was "Koran 19:88"

I found that particular one and it reads:

“Those who say the Lord of mercy has begotten a Son preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a Son to the merciful, when it did not become Him to beget on” Koran 19:88

If I'm not mistaken, I've seen what I have in bold text mentioned at some of these jihadist sites. It seems to be what they want to do to us. Why? Because we're Christians and believe Jesus is the Son of God.

There may be more than one reason the number "19" is significant in Islam but this might explain why it's significant to the jihadists.

Just one speculation among many. :-)

6,118 posted on 01/04/2004 3:43:04 AM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: radu; JustPiper; Pro-Bush; nwctwx
Can you direct me to the significance of "19" post?

The number "19" has some sort of significance to the jihadists. I've never understood what it was. Out of curiosity I Googled "Koran - 19" and came up with all kinds of sites. One consistency I noticed was "Koran 19:88" I found that particular one and it reads: “Those who say the Lord of mercy has begotten a Son preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a Son to the merciful, when it did not become Him to beget on” Koran 19:88 If I'm not mistaken, I've seen what I have in bold text mentioned at some of these jihadist sites. It seems to be what they want to do to us. Why? Because we're Christians and believe Jesus is the Son of God. There may be more than one reason the number "19" is significant in Islam but this might explain why it's significant to the jihadists. Just one speculation among many. :-)

Thanks, radu! nwctwx also posted (#5540 on this thread)about the significance of "19" ("Welcome to Submission") and post 5732 has some links also (arghh...did not write poster's name down).
6,121 posted on 01/04/2004 3:58:58 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: radu
Adding on to post no. 6118...

LINKS OF INTEREST


Muhajiroun.com - AL-MUHAJIROUN

AL MUHAJIROUN (www.muhajiroun.com) Press Release: "RAMADAN: MONTH OF JIHAD" (November 26, 2003)

GAWAHER.com - Islamic Discussion: "Al-Muhajirun, good or bad?" (November 22, 2003)

BUSH COUNTRY.org: "RADICAL BRITISH-BASED ISLAMIC GROUP WARNS OF POSSIBLE ATTACK DURING PRESIDENT BUSH'S UPCOMING VISIT TO LONDON: SAYS SECURITY IS JUSTIFIED" -Column by Jeremy Reynalds (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "A Nov. 14 2003 press release from Al-Muhajiroun says there is an "overriding grave and very real threat of an operation, similar to 9/11, against the U.S. President."") (November 15, 2003) (Read More...)
Groups.Yahoo.com - almuhajiroun_uk: "DECLARATION OF THE 'MAGNIFICENT 19' PRESS CONFERENCE" -from Al-Muhajiroun UK (almuhajiroun_uk@yahoo.com) (September 11, 2003)

YAHOO! Groups - ALMUHAJIROUN_UK: " BUSH & BLAIR CHOKE ON THE FALLOUT AFTER SEPTEMBER 11TH" (August 17, 2003)

YAHOO! Groups: "almuhajiroun_uk" (Discussion Forum)

AL MUHAJIROUN.com.pk - Harkat-ul-Khilafah (Discussion Forum)

"AL-MUHAJIROUN Harkat ul Khilafah" (Pakistan Branch)

groups.yahoo.com/group: "UK ISLAMIC FRONT *Iman*Shari'ah*Jihad*"

KHILAFAH.com.pk: "COMMUNIQUE FROM HIZB UT-TAHRIR: 'And wage Jihad against those who fight you' [Al-Baqarah 2:190] ANNIHILATE THE FOURTH CRUSADE"

mitglied.lycos.de/BLCREW: "BIN-LADEN-CREW" (E-Mail Address: "bin-laden-crew@al-qaedah.org")

mitglied.lycos.de/BLCREW: "WWW.BIN-LADEN-CREW.DE"

mitglied.lycos.de/BLCREW: "BL-PHOTOS"

RAMADHAN.tk

www.oblcrew.tk: "MAKTAB AL JIHAD"

MAKTAB AL-JIHAD.com

www.almuk.com: "AL JIHAD"

www.almuk.com: "REMEMBER, REMEMBER THE 11th OF SEPTEMBER"

ALMUK.com: "FATWA AGAINST THOSE WHO ALLY WITH THE DISBELIEVERS AGAINST MUSLIMS" -"Fatwa Released by the Shari"ah Court of the UK" (September 11, 2003)

"CLEAR GUIDANCE.com"

CLEAR GUIDANCE.com: "JIHAAD"

6,232 posted on 01/04/2004 11:54:26 AM PST by Cindy
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