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To: jerseygirl
How long before 9/11 were some students in NYC mentioning that the towers would no longer be there?

Here are a few FR threads on the subject...

Trade Center warning baffles police - An urban myth turns out to be true but what does it mean?
      Posted by vannrox
On 05/28/2002 7:42 PM PDT with 24 comments


MS NBC ^ | NEW YORK, Oct. 12 2001 | By Jonathan Alter
Trade Center warning baffles police An ‘urban myth’ turns out to be true — but what does it mean? By Jonathan Alter SPECIAL TO MSNBC NEW YORK, Oct. 12 — I went to Brooklyn this week in search of an “urban myth” about the World Trade Center attacks. What I came back with was no longer a myth — it was cold, chilling fact. But it didn’t clear anything up for me; that the “myth” was true only made matters murkier. Was word of the attacks on the street beforehand? I wanted to find out. YOU KNOW the “myths”...
     
 
Trade Center Warning Baffles Police
      Posted by honway
On 10/18/2001 8:02 AM PDT with 59 comments


MSNBC.COM ^ | 10-12-01 | Jonathan Alter
Trade Center warning baffles police An ‘urban myth’ turns out to be true — but what does it mean? By Jonathan Alter SPECIAL TO MSNBC NEW YORK, Oct. 12 — I went to Brooklyn this week in search of an “urban myth” about the World Trade Center attacks. What I came back with was no longer a myth — it was cold, chilling fact. But it didn’t clear anything up for me; that the “myth” was true only made matters murkier. Was word of the attacks on the street beforehand? I wanted to find out. YOU KNOW the “myths” I ...
     
 
Post Here Evidence that Some in Muslim Community Had Prior Knowledge of 9-11 Attack
      Posted by honway
On 10/17/2001 10:48 AM PDT with 56 comments


Police: Student spoke of attacks before Sept. 11... News/Current Events Source: The Journal News Published: 10-11-01 Author: JEFFREY SCOTT SHAPIRO Posted on 10/11/01 10:37 AM Pacific by Demian BROOKLYN — Authorities are tracking numerous leads that some people, including members of the Arab-American community, heard rumors of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington in the days leading up to the hijackings, law enforcement sources say. "There have been leads where someone has alleged to have heard someone else boasting about how the attack was going to happen before it happened," said Jim Margolin, a spokesman for the FBI ...
     
 
Police: Student spoke of attacks before Sept. 11...
      Posted by Demian
On 10/11/2001 10:37 AM PDT with 226 comments


The Journal News ^ | 10-11-01 | JEFFREY SCOTT SHAPIRO
BROOKLYN — Authorities are tracking numerous leads that some people, including members of the Arab-American community, heard rumors of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington in the days leading up to the hijackings, law enforcement sources say. "There have been leads where someone has alleged to have heard someone else boasting about how the attack was going to happen before it happened," said Jim Margolin, a spokesman for the FBI in Manhattan. In Brooklyn, a high school freshman who recently immigrated from Pakistan was investigated by federal agents after his teacher reported that he had predicted the Trade ...
     

Also...

Claim:   A Dallas schoolboy predicted the start of World War III one day before the terrorist attacks on America.

Status:   Undetermined.

Origins:   This is another single-source anecdote, the source in this case being the Houston Chronicle, which reported on September 19 that:

The day before terrorists attacked New York and Washington, a fifth-grader in a Dallas suburb told his teacher World War III would begin the next day, school officials have told the FBI.

The boy was absent from school the day of the attacks, Sept. 11, and the following day, but has been at school since then, said Rhonda Lucich, a director of elementary education for the Garland Independent School District.

Lucich said the boy approached his teacher on the afternoon of Sept. 10 and casually told her:

"Tomorrow, World War III will begin. It will begin in the United States, and the United States will lose."

That was all the information the Chronicle provided in the article other than noting that the FBI had been informed. The article didn't report the boy's name or the school he attended, nor did it report whether the FBI investigated the tip and what they found if they did. From the information given, one could not rule out the possibility that the boy's teacher misremembered or misreported what he had said to her the day before, or that the boy typically made statements like the one quoted but no one ever paid much attention to him before. Sure enough, twelve days later, the Chronicle reported in a follow-up article:

Garland Police spokeswoman Stephanie Funk said today that FBI agents interviewed the child's teacher and decided no further investigation was warranted . . .

Steve Knagg, communications director for the Garland Independent School District, last week said the teacher later decided she could not be certain the boy had actually predicted World War III would begin on the same day as the terrorist attacks.

The Dallas boy's "prediction" appears to have been yet another case of general statements being misremembered or afforded greater significance than they merit in light of subsequent events. And even if the boy's words were recalled accurately by his teacher, he said nothing about terrorists or hijackings or New York City; the specifics in his statement — that World War III has begun, and that the "United States will lose" — have yet to prove true.

A similar incident involving a schoolchild was reported in Brooklyn, New York:

In Brooklyn, a high school freshman who recently immigrated from Pakistan was investigated by federal agents after his teacher reported that he had predicted the Trade Center's collapse a week before the towers were attacked.

The student pointed out a third-story window of New Utrecht High School toward the Trade Center and said, "Do you see those two buildings? They won't be standing there next week," according to three police sources and a city official familiar with the investigation. They said the comment came in the midst of a heated political discussion the student was having with his teacher in an English class for Arab-American students.

Once again, however, no follow-up information surfaced to indicate that the boy had any specific foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks:

Federal agents who visited the New Utrecht school questioned the student and his older brother, who also attends there, the sources said. Afterward, the agents tried to question their father, who chastised them for harassing his children, they said.

Police sources said that, after the interviews, the boy's father left for Pakistan. After his departure, investigators conducted a second interview with the boy and his mother, who told them that her son was having psychological problems.

Additional information:

    Trade Center Warning Baffles Police   Trade Center Warning Baffles Police   (MSNBC.com)

Last updated:   12 October 2001

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Sources Sources:
    Alter, Johnathan.   "Trade Center Warning Baffles Police."
    MSNBC.com.   12 October 2001.

    Ratcliffe, R.G.   "Boy in Dallas Suburb Predicts Start of WW III Day Before Attacks."
    Houston Chronicle.   19 September 2001.

    Shapiro, Jeffrey Scott.   "Police: Boy Spoke of Attacks Before Sept. 11."
    The [Westchester] Journal News.   11 October 2001.

    Houston Chronicle.   "FBI Dismisses Tip on Child Who Predicted WWIII."
      1 October 2001.
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244 posted on 11/03/2003 12:11:43 PM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Sabertooth; jerseygirl
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/29/71547.shtml

Cairo, Egypt in August 2001.
While on vacation in Cairo last August, Connecticut banker Richard Dennison says a shopkeeper in the bazaar told him in detail about planes that would be flown like bombs into the World Trade Center by Arabs in September or October. Furthermore, according to the shopkeeper, the coming attack was a prime topic of conversation at his mosque.

Dennison, an executive with American Savings Bank, told NewsMax, "I called the FBI about a week after the attack and was transferred to another FBI agent who listened to my story and indicated that I might hear back from another agent in the future. I did not.


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255 posted on 11/03/2003 12:20:55 PM PST by swarthyguy
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re post no. 244...

September 11, 2001: "Attack on America!" (UPDATED DAILY.))
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html
529 posted on 11/03/2003 6:08:00 PM PST by Cindy
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