Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

[tubavil]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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[Labyrinthos]

Arghhh! You don't remember and you referred to the exact scene in the movie, Marathon Man! The dentist kept asking Dustin, "Is it safe?"

Of course. I feel real stupid now. LOL

[Domestic Church]

" But one of his sons could have a near-identical voice print which could pass the AQ audio-tape tests."

Or one of his brothers...

[Labyrinthos]

Sean explains that the Feds are not bothering him, the inference is that should tell us something, I guess to mean they would get him if he wasn't being straight.

Or it could mean that the Feds don't perceive him as a threat to national security or intelligence gathering operations because the so-called secret information he diseminates is neither accurate nor secret, or is nothing more than what any halfway decent arm-chair spook could figure out on his or her own without the aid of top secret government sources, or is deemed to be nothing more than mere speculation and conjecture, rather than the disclosure of accurate facts.

[judicial meanz]

Sean:

Off topic, but are you a member of the Casper Society?

[watchwoman]

As others have said, it is possible to question and challenge without being rude. If you have information or input we are always ready to hear it. We're all on the same page here...lets move on & focus on the real enemy, not eachother.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...Have the firm opinion that the communists are pushing their agenda, while we read eom and daleel, they like it that we are not paying attention to the games they are playing with our constitution...

That is the truth.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...these Islamic fruitcakes do not have the delivery systems nor the techno-savy in delivering and detonating a nuclear device...

Know how many pakistani engineers work in our nuclear plants?

[Labyrinthos]

Wait a second, you did not declare it was a 'rumor' you posted several times it was a fact and inferred you had privy to inside info

He said he had confirmed through three (or was it four) highly reliable sources that US Spec Ops had picked up OBL in Iran and that he had been "bagged and tagged." There was no disclaimer of any kind. It was not reported as a rumor, but as a fact.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...Gen. Franks: WMD Could End the Constitution...

The Constitution is pretty much gone anyway.
I'm beginning to seriously doubt this whole business.

Frankly, I can't believe that if the AQ gang is real, they didn't manage an attempt on the State of the Union. What more could they want, than everybody in one cozy spot?

I've always thought that our external enemies would never prosper without help from within. We, here on FR, saw that help revealed during the Clinton years, when the supposedly staunch republican, Ken Starr, was unable to push the treason angle because he was as filthy with Chinese cash as everybody else in Washington.

The Senate colluded in the Clinton's treason as well.
The current administration has continued the coverup and destruction of the evidence.

We may be hit and hit hard by the Jihadis, but our own government will be at least partly responsible, if not more so.

[Sean Osborne Lomax]

The what?

[Sean Osborne Lomax]

Agreed. Ping to post 15,379.

[Sean Osborne Lomax]

Regarding "leaks" from the US government I have spoken of in this thread, I submit the following from Jay Edward Epstein. I hope most people will see the obvious. To those who do not, keep trying, your struggle is not in vain.

http://edwardjayepstein.com/KSMQuestions.htm


quote:

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Question:

In his 2004 State of the Union Speech, President Bush named the "mastermind of September 11th:" Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (who had been captured in Pakistan in March 2003.)

According to "leaks" from the U.S. government to the Associated Press, KSM is now not only talking to his American interrogators but supplying them with details of the plot. If so, he is presumably in a position to cast light on some of the key issues that now confront the 9-11 Commission. What questions should the Commission put to the KSM?

Answer:

Since Khalid Shaikh Mohammed has been identified by the U.S. as the controlling case officer for both Ramzi Yousef, who helped organize the attack on the World Trade Center in 1993, and Mohammed Atta, who helped organize the attack on the World Trade Center in 2001, he can clarify the planning, intelligence-gathering and logical support that aided both attacks. The questions KSM could cast light on include:

You were indicted by a U.S. Grand Jury 1996 for plotting to destroy 12 U.S. airliners. At that point, your chief subordinate, Ramzi Yousef, had been operating under a stolen Kuwaiti identity-- "Abdul Karim Basit." Documentation backing up that identity legend, including Yousef's fingerprints, had been inserted in Kuwait's records in 1990 when Kuwait was occupied by Iraq.

1) When those records were in the control of Iraq, why did the Iraq Intelligence Service provide this legend for your subordinate? Did you yourself, or any of your other operatives, receive similar assistance in maintaining false identities from Iraq? If so, what, if any, was the quid pro quo and what were the terms for the assistance?

2) Farouk Hijazi, the Iraqi Foreign Intelligence chief, met in in Afghanistan in March 1998 with top Al-Qaeda leaders. Did he offer further assistance in providing Al-Qaeda operatives false identities? If so, was this offer accepted, and were these identities delivered?

3) Mohammed Atta applied for a Czech visa in May 2000 after receiving a U.S. visa. On May 30th-- one day before the visa arrived-- he flew to the Prague International Airport to spend 5 hours in the transit lounge and then he returned to Hamburg. What was the purpose of Atta's brief trip? Why was it so time-sensitive that he could not wait one day until May 31, when his visa, in fact, arrived? Whom did he meet in the transit lounge? Why did Atta return to Prague, two days later, on June 2, 2000, before proceeding on his mission to America?

4) On April 4, 2001, Atta checked out of the Diplomat Inn in Virginia Beach, Virginia, and withdrew $8,000 in cash from his account at the Suntrust Bank-- the largest cash withdrawal he made-- and then disappeared for at least a week. Was this withdrawal authorized by KSM? If so, what was its purpose?

5) On April 8th, 2001, a Czech counterintelligence watcher identified Atta in Prague. Was Atta authorized to be in Prague at this time? If so, what was the purpose of his trip? What identity did he use to leave and re-enter the United States? Whom did he meet in Prague on this trip?

6) A number of the 9-11 hijackers were supplied with false identities. For example, Atta's traveling companion used the stolen identity of Abdulaziz Alomari (a Saudi engineer, whose passport had been reported stolen in 1995 in Colorado). How many false identities did the conspiracy obtain for the hijackers and their logistical supporters? Were they backed up with documented legends, as in the case of Ramzi Yousef? Who supplied these false identities and back-up documentation?

7) On September 10, 2001, Atta and "Alomari" drove from Boston to Portland, Maine, and booked themselves onto a commuter flight back to Boston on September 11th. If that commuter flight was delayed by an hour, they would not have been able to participate in the 9-11 attack. What circumstances justified al-Qaeda taking this risk? What was the purpose of the trip to Portland?

8) In the 1993 World Trade Center plot, there were escape routes for at least two operatives-- Ramzi Yousef (to Pakistan) and Abdul Rahman Yasin (to Iraq). Did any similar escape routes exist for the 2001 plot?

Corollary Question:

Why has the 9-11 Commission been denied access, even over a remote television hook-up, to the "mastermind"?

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In light of the above, and accepting for the moment that the information I have presented here about the capture of Osama bin Laden is 100% accurate, what extrapolations can be drawn?

How about:

According to "leaks" from anonymous sources from anonymous sources in Virginia to the Northeast Intelligence Network...

A partial quote from the NEIN Operational Statement for 2003-2004 follows. Use the link provided to see the entire statement.


quote:

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OPERATIONAL STATEMENT 2003-2004

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Although the Northeast Intelligence Network has been in operation since October 21, 2001 , we only began to present our information to the public via our website in late July of 2003. As the founder and director, I chose to do so after much careful thought and reflection, driven by the lack of information being provided by our own government. The events of September 11th, 2001 forever changed the lives of every American; on that day, most of us became aware we are all considered "legitimate" targets in our own country by a vicious and formidable enemy driven largely by their ideology. Formidable not by the sophistication of their weaponry, but by their sheer numbers, persistence, and the decades of infiltration into key areas of our infrastructure and public and private institutions. Decades of political correctness overruled sensible security measures and adversely affected the operation of our intelligence services. As the Northeast Intelligence Network operated "in the shadows" for nearly 18 months, we began to realize that the same communication failures that led to the events of 9/11 continued to exist. We would report certain findings to one federal agency that were to be shared with another agency, however found that the lines of communication were still dysfunctional at best, or non-existent at worst. Additionally, we noticed a growing frustration within the general public and even within a number of local law enforcement officials concerning the lack of specificity concerning the terror alerts, despite the utilization of the color-coded alert system. Quite simply, people want to be informed so they can be better prepared. "Knowledge replaces fear" became our mantra, and consequently, our website became accessible to the public. Our objective is to provide the public with reliable, specific information about current threats that could affect our country, the safety of our families and our way of life without compromising the efforts of our government in their fight against terrorism. Many of our findings are presented on our website and are a contributing component to the Terror Alert Update developed by Mr. Steven Quayle.

What We Accomplished in 2003

The following information encompasses our activity between July 1 and December 31, 2003 :

Intelligence items submitted to federal authorities: 532 individual (unique) items

Federal agencies contacted: JTTF, DHS, FBI , US Treasury , US Customs, INS, DTRA , US Diplomatic Security, State Police in 4 states, and Airport police in 3 states.

General Results: One KNOWN arrest although several additional arrests were implied but not confirmed. Of the 532 unique pieces of intelligence provided to the various federal agencies, at least 40% (about 215) were classified as "new" items that resulted in files being opened on a federal level. Our information resulted in at least 15 active surveillance operations being initiated within the US borders involving multiple subjects of interest. We received no "direct" feedback on the remaining 60% of data and intelligence provided, although informal or "off the record" confirmation that the information was of "significant" value stands at 30% (about 95 of the unique data items provided).

Note: It is important for the reader to understand that communicating with the intelligence community is usually a one-way communication; feedback in most cases is rare. For the most part, they will neither confirm nor deny any information of substance.

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http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/2004.htm#OS

[Sean Osborne Lomax]

Oh, I should mention just for the record and to be perfectly clear, the above reference and link to the Jay Edward Epstein article was emailed to me this morning by Dr. Laurie Mylroie.

[judicial meanz]

Casper Society- From the website:

The CASPER SOCIETY is an informal fraternal organization of Naval Security Group Electronic Counter-measures Operators or as they are now known, Electronic Support Measures Technicians who find comfort in the company of their own breed. We have friends in other ranks and rates, even in other services [I even have a friend who is a civilian] but we birds flock together because we have all "been there and done that." We are the "watchers of the green worm."

This site is dedicated to the strange breed who rode submarines only when there was something interesting to do. We missed the refueling, loading stores, loading candles, loading fish, Yard periods, ad infinitum but, when it was fun, we were there. We ate the crews food, drank their water, breathed their air, filled their sanitary tanks and took up their rack space but, when the time came......they were glad we were there. But, we were always the "Spooks", the little men who were never there.

Many of us waited for years to ride the boats, and equal number got picked to ride right after their first tour but, to a man we all got more than we bargained for in the boats.


Many qualified and wear the treasured Silver Dophins of the enlisted submariner, U.S. Navy and even one O-ganger earned his "fish" on the boats. Many more did not qualify, they were too busy doing their jobs. Our hats are off to them also. Many wear their fish for two people....I do, for themselves for doing the work to qualify and for their partner who worked 18 hours a day so you could qualify. A special thanks to guys who had that special brand of camaraderie to do that for another guy.

Lots of us came back to ride time and time again. Others tried it once and quit. There is no shame in that, "cause the boats ain't for everybody." You had to be willing to live closer to your fellow man than anyone should every have too live. You had to go without showers, fresh milk, fresh vegetables, clean air and sunlight for weeks or even months at a time. You had to give up any personal space you held dear and rub elbows with everyone. You had to put up with being considered prima donnas by your peers ashore, "twidgets" by the guys whose lives you disrupted on the boats and "no good low down rats" by your wife and kids. If you didn't love the work, you weren't going to make it, because buddy, that's all you had. But, most of us would do it again, anytime.

So this is to you my sub-riding buddy, we know who won the Cold War. And we did it in some pretty good company like Captain Jack Stone, the man with a full wheelbarrow, Captain Noel Wood, who learned to trust his spooks and became a hero, and countless other submarine officers and enlisted men with whom we were all very proud to serve. To them we say "RE SUR GAM


The casper society: http://www.geocities.com/thecaspersociety/id2wat.html
I am a regular bubblehead, but I enjoy the company of these guys immensely.



Note: GREAT bunch of guys-

[irish_lad]

Let me get this straight...morons on this thread are reporting "information" from a message board on another site from supposedly an Islamic radical? I thought Daleel was some fundamentalist web site, and since it is but a message board, I wouldn't waste my time responding.

Sounds like Freepers have been played like a fiddle.

[Domestic Church]

Computer screen bombs make the blue screen of death a reality:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065388/posts

[irish_lad]

Working in a nuclear power plant is a helluva lot different than detonating a nuclear device.

Time to come out of the covers and face the world.

[judicial meanz]

"Let me get this straight...morons on this thread are reporting "information" from a message board on another site from supposedly an Islamic radical? I thought Daleel was some fundamentalist web site, and since it is but a message board, I wouldn't waste my time responding."


Daleel is both a Jihad website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Daleel_Almojahid_1/

on Yahoo groups and a poster who posts to the

www.itshappening.com website.

There are several other Daleel groups that resemble the one above, but the jury is out on them. "Daleel AlMojahid" is a pseudonym for "Voice of the Mojahid" and in my opinion, consists of several members of the A/Q public information section who regularly post disinformation and propaganda to the web in order to seek converts and undermine the US.

[Domestic Church]

How would you know? ;)

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

You know, in the course of my life, I've been told so many times that certain things are just to difficult to do, yet I've never had a problem accomplishing anything I've tried.

People like to believe that they are the only ones that can do what they do, yet I've always held to the position that if anyone on earth can do something, I can do it too, and maybe better. In that, I've yet to be proved wrong.

Basically, nothing is all that hard. There are plenty of people who could put a nuclear bomb together if they had a few bucks and the hard to get parts.

If one tenth of what we are told about AQ is half correct, they have both the money and the access to materials.

Personally, I don't doubt that there are persons with the capabilities one bit. I only doubt what we are being fed as news. Since the official line is so often contradicted here(not just here)and later discredited in the lamestream, this thread and it's interminable discussion has value.

If you don't see that value then you are free to ignore it.