Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

[tubavil]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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[windchime]

You are amazing....and appreciated!

Two characteristics appeared strange to me.

The Islamists/terrorists do not hold women/females in high regard, but he/she gender terms are used almost interchangeably throughout the writing. Do you see any significance in that use?

They use the term DEATH instead of martyrdom in this statement. Found that interesting. Do some of us have to die for them to be martyrs?

".......led to failure of the projects, then the dispersal of the team, and their deaths and imprisonment.

[texasbluebell]

And not to be ignored is the fact that it was a frenchman who put that red flag on Liberty.

[freeperfromnj]

This is the first thread I check- even before my own email!

Me too. I even look here before I go to the breaking news side bar.

[jerseygirl]

Just a long shot, if you google "red flag" on images- there are some interesting results. One of which is a picture labelled "preflight".

[texasbluebell]

Check your freepmail, liz, just tried to answer you re: the italics.

[texasbluebell]

Hang in there, we may get to the top yet!

[StillProud2BeFree]

Thank you - always glad to be of help.

Without turning this into a grammar lesson (cause I'd get over my head VERY quickly) I'll try and explain.

In English, we only have three gender pronouns he, she and it. Arabic, like French, has masculine and feminine forms of "it". In French you have "il" and "elle"; in Arabic you have "Howa" and "Heya". They are used depending on the gender of the noun or pronoun that the verb is modifying. (That's why it's a real pain to translate English to Arabic - the genders get me every time!)

I learned enough Arabic where I got to where I can read the language - I don't have to translate to understand, if that makes sense. It's a bad habit of mine, when I translate quickly, or I'm really tired, that I will use the gender specific he and she for howa and heya rather than the gender neutral it. My goof in translation.

They have different words for death and martyrdom. Death is considered a disgrace - in this case I think they are referring to members of Al Qaeda who were killed by US and coalition forces, and who died "without honor", to borrow a Klingon phrase. They goofed - there was no honor in their death, according to their belief system.

[Hegemony Cricket]

"From SOL waving the red flag to 911, was 19 days."

19 days! Hmmmmmmmmm.

[texasbluebell]

Pretty interesting the stuff that turned up. And I did find a flag of the Union Jack on a red background, but it's a Canadian Ensign flag of some sort.

[watchwoman]

I think Northeast Intelligence Network (Homeland Security US website) must have headed for the hills! Three days with no updates...some kind of record. Oh Sean, where are you?!!!

[Stu Cohen]

... Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities

What has Mexico done to offend Al-Quieda?

[Thinkin' Gal]

Have you found any more pictures with the red flags?

That is the only one I've seen. If you go to Yahoo news photos and search for "queen mary", that's the only one out of the 70 or so pics. It just sort of stands out.

Just now, I typed in red+flag to see if anything else interesting would pop up. The 19 photos that appear, do remind me of the Flash Airline crash. Of course as we all know, the French departed Egypt in a Flash, but perished in the Red* Sea.

*Lit. reeds, as in the sea of reeds i.e. flags.

Strong's concordance:

05488 cuwph {soof}

probably of Egyptian origin; TWOT - 1479; n m
AV - Red 24, flags 3, weeds 1; 28

1) reed, rush, water plant
1a) rushes
1b) sea of rushes
1b1) of Red Sea
1b2) of arms of Red Sea
1b3) of Gulf of Suez
1b4) of sea from straits to Gulf of Akaba

Hmmm, maybe there are a lot of red flags after all. :-/

[Rutles4Ever]

I am 100% convinced these Internet jihad postings are baloney up and down. I played along to see what would come of them, but I'm skeptical now. Whether or not NEIN can find a dimaond in the rough remains to be seen. I don't believe they're making this stuff up out of whole-cloth, but
what they are gleaning IS made up out of whole-cloth -- in my opinion.

I think the misdirect was well-planned, and that actual communications are taking place under more conventional means with extreme care. I'm thinking couriered messages, coded conversations, etc. While the feds are scouring websites and deciphering encyrpted pictures, a small but tight-knit group is plodding along their next strike on the U.S., in a way that will surprise us all since we're chasing shadows in cyberspace.

Do I think it's WMD? No. My belief is that the next attack will be conventional. It will affect a large number of people, and we will be surprised in its ability to create panic.

Power outage? Maybe. Suicide bombers. Very possible. Nuclear weapons? Doubtful. Chemical/biological? No delivery system they can use would be reliable enough to afford the certain and brutal response of the United States if a WMD were released. Planes? The government thinks so.

Point is, this has been an intriguing discussion, but it's no longer worth anyone's angst. The message has been conveyed, and I have to call BS on it. February 2nd is practically a Free Republic holiday the way everyone is anticipating the end of civilization. Let's remember that "al Qaeda" does not look as good on a resume as it used to in the Middle East. Even Saddam apparently wanted no part. How telling is that when the Monster of Iraq gets squeamish about your application for employment?

At any rate, life is unpredictable. All I know is what I can see with my own two eyes, and I have to divide my trust to the outside world as I see fit. I don't trust Internet posts without a verifiable source. I do trust government agencies that have much deeper intel resources than we'll ever come into contact with. I have no choice.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but the days are a little nicer without worrying about some random shipping crate in an under-protected harbor. That's the error of a bombardment of misinformation. Pretty soon, the threat and situation is purported to be so bleak, it's not worth worrying about. It's like admitting we'll all die one day. That will be the end of my own personal Western civilization with unforgiving finality. I can't stop it from happening, so I choose not to worry about it.

Life is too short. I wish everyone a blessed 2004.

[swarthyguy]

You know, the scheming, duplicitous, two face, two timing Saudis are too much.

In a dictatorial monarchy with a police apparatus better than the old East German Stasi, they expect us to buy this BS that they weren't aware of these camps?

And we are the suckers for believing them.

As long as the Saudis are untouchable, the Wot won't end.

Too bad Bush can't get the get up and go to nail the Saudis.

No money, no jihad, no state support.

And to hell with all this talk of a multigenerational war; the jihadi terror would be finished if we took out Saudi funding and Pakistani brains and brawn.

But, no, we wait like sitting ducks knowing full well the epicenter of jihad is Riyadh.

[StillProud2BeFree]

What about the nautical semaphore flags? Those are used for signalling and communications between ships, or at least they were, and if memory serves me correctly many of the flags are red, so that they stand out. I;m not sure if they are still in use but I believe they are.

[windchime]

"I have netscape how do I use italics etc in these posts"

I am computer challenged. I cheat by using Microsoft Front Page that automatically translates my work to HTML.

Here are some links I saved when I get the time to learn: :)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/757944/posts
http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_links.asp
http://www.theill.com/hfc/

Agree on Soros.....and would add a couple to his club of 'most dangerous'.

LOL! I read where you leave Fox on all night. You know, then, how much you pick up subconsciously even when asleep. Fox is on even when we're not home! (keeps the cats company) What I heard regarding planes on Fox last night was that they are watching crop duster type planes because they still consider them a potential threat. I heard nothing in addition to info already posted here about cargo planes. Believe the story was posted somewhere here about an owner/pilot being killed and three Cesnas stolen in Brazil and have heard nothing more on that.

[angkor]

We have toys they can't even dream of that are helping us WIN the WOT.... there are MANY assets watching their every move, their every thought, and their every communication, 24x7.

There are plenty of offensive tools in the arsenal for cyber counterwarfare. Plenty.

I have to laugh at these jihadis who believe - quite wrongly - that the Internet affords them any anonymity whatsoever. It doesn't. Look at Aaron Weisburd at Internet Haganah, who with only a rudimentary arsenal has helped to put hundreds of jihadi web sites out of business.

Likewise, this EOM and his silly proxy is by no stretch immune from tracking. Any entity seriously interested in his identity and location could discover that info in a single evening session by watching his posts and source IPs. I assure you the USG has the capability to obtain ISP logs in a timely manner (hmmm, EOM thinks his ISP logs are "safe", haha). Which means EOM can be (and probably has been) busted. He's either an acceptable threat or none whatsoever.

I like to remind folks that the Dan Pearl murderers sent email ransom notes to several newspapers, and that they were then apprehended in less than a week in Karachi. Guess they didn't realize that those emails included the IP address of the Internet cafe they were using, and that the very long reach of the USG could go right to their front door.

These sick little jihadis with their monumental egos and incomplete logical faculties are seriously mistaken to believe they can outwit us. It's true we didn't pay attention pre-9/11, and it's also true that Clinton/Reno seriously hobbled cyber-intelligence efforts. But its a different world now, and the jihadis are under the microscope in a world where they are pathetic amateurs (shhh, don't tell them that). The Internet is the world's best tool for compromising their communications, because they believe it's safe, and they think they're real smart.

What a ridiculous joke they are, bringing another yet heaping pile of "humiliation" to the Muslims.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Just a long shot, if you google "red flag" on images- there are some interesting results. One of which is a picture labelled "preflight".

You must be referring to those "Remove Before Flight" tags. The flags are attached to things like intake covers, and on pins which insert into the landing gear to prevent collapse. Hence, the "remove before flight" warning flags attached to these items.

The QM2 (and the red flag), however, has unique parallels to the SOL, the WOT, and the general alarms that have been sounded in these recent weeks. Just one more sign to add to the mix. I won't go into the other concerns regarding the Columbia anniversary, but Columbia is an old name for the US of A.

[Cindy]

INTERNET HAGANAH: "TERRORIST FAN SITE #1: RAEHATU AL-MISK" (January 15, 2004)
http://internet-haganah.us/harchives/001413.html

INTERNET HAGANAH: "TERRORIST FAN SITE #2: WWW.ALW3DNET.COM" (January 15, 2004)
http://internet-haganah.us/harchives/001412.html

INTERNET HAGANAH: "WWW.PAGE4FREE.BIZ" (January 15, 2004)
http://internet-haganah.us/harchives/001411.html

ARTICLE SNIPPET: Between you, me, and the 7,359 members of the Global Islamic Media group, the most recent semi-official publications of Al Qaida will be found on a couple of accounts at page4free.biz, namely

http://www.page4free.biz/sout999/
and
http://www.page4free.biz/sout26/