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Anchor: "there are just wars" [re planted heckler shouting the G word at JD Vance)
Youtube ^ | Apr 15, 2026

Posted on 04/15/2026 10:21:49 PM PDT by Milagros

It is very complex. It is not merely a moral, philosophical, or intellectual matter—it is also a matter of military warfare. That is to say: on the one hand, there are wars that are just. Is it just for Israel to defend itself? Absolutely just. Is it just—after the butchering perpetrated by the Palestinian Hamas guerrillas on October 7, 2023, killing more than a thousand innocent Israelis—for Israel to go and kill Hamas terrorists wherever they may be hiding? It is just; it is a just war. Now, in such just wars—regrettably, tragically—innocent people sometimes die. In wars—no matter how just they may be—innocent people often die.


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Original on Spanish: Es muy complejo. No solo un asunto moral, filosofico, intelectual.. también as un asunto de guerra militar. O sea. Por una parte hay guerras que son justas. Si es justo que Israel se defiende? Bien justo. Es justo que después de la carnicería que perpetraron las guerrillas palestinas de Hamas de siete de octubre dos mil veinte y tres, matando a más de mil israelíes inocentes, es justo que Israel vaya a matar a los terroristas de Hamas donde quieran que están escondidos? es justo, es una guerra justa. Ahora bien, en esas guerras justas, lamentable, tragicamente, a veces mueren inocentes. En las guerras, por los justas que sean, a menudo mueren inocentes,
1 posted on 04/15/2026 10:21:49 PM PDT by Milagros
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To: Milagros

Good. MegaTV is not as leftist as Unividion or NBC’s linked Telemundo


2 posted on 04/15/2026 11:42:31 PM PDT by Freeleesy
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To: Milagros

Israel’s aggressions do not meet a just war according to the Catholic Catechism.
Maybe by Talmudic standards, but I don’t follow Talmudic teachings.
I wonder how many FReepers have actually read the Talmud and not just the Pentateuch.


3 posted on 04/16/2026 4:08:00 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon. )
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To: sockmonkey
Israel’s aggressions do not meet a just war according to the Catholic Catechism.

I didn't know that Bibi was beholden to Dope Leo.

4 posted on 04/16/2026 4:14:37 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: sockmonkey
"Israel’s aggressions do not meet a just war..."

why? because you say so? give some details if you're going to make such a claim

5 posted on 04/16/2026 4:28:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (no i think 10%consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Milagros

I care about Palestinians about as much as I care about alligators.


6 posted on 04/16/2026 5:36:15 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: sockmonkey
Core Principles of Just War

The Catechism emphasizes that all citizens and governments must work to avoid war, but recognizes the right to lawful self-defense if all peace efforts fail (CCC 2308).

The strict conditions for a just war include: United States Conference of Catholic Bishops:

The damage inflicted by the aggressor must be lasting, grave, and certain.

All other means of ending the conflict must be impractical or ineffective.

There must be serious prospects of success.

The use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated.

These criteria require prudential judgment by those responsible for the common good.

OK, sock monkey, which of these criteria has Israel failed to meet by defending the invasion of their country, the rape and murder of their citizens and the taking of hostages by the hamas murdering bastards?

BTW, is a sock your...never mind.

7 posted on 04/16/2026 6:06:27 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS)
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To: sockmonkey
Yet when Cardinal Robert W. McElroy, Cardinal Joseph W. Tobin, and Cardinal Blase J. Cupich.m were asked if Iran being the biggest exporter of terrorism, they had to state the truth, that Iran's regime is a brutal regime that must be eliminated.

THey were of course speaking out of both sides of thier mouth. IOn other words, their response that it is not a just war is their hatred for both Trumop & Israel. But they are just fine with the Musli religon,.

I guess they have bought into the argument that thejustified Crusade Wars, were unjust per Islam's rewting of the hitorical facts.. That they should have just allowed themselves to be dominated by Islam Wars. This is all part of what hs changed with the Catholic church under their leadership revolutionary takeover.

8 posted on 04/16/2026 6:25:22 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: sockmonkey

Reading Talmud is one thing. Understanding it is another. In order to understand, you must study it from a Jewish perspective, and by calling the 5 books the “Pentateuch”, it shows a desire to fit Christian ideas into the Writings. The New Testament is from a different perspective, but many Christians believe it replaced the Hebrew Bible (Tanuch). If you believe it did, you will never understand what Jesus taught in his day. He was a Rabbi. He taught Torah, and very little of what he taught was original, but it has been Christianized long after he left this world. I don’t really care what others believe, but I do believe that anyone must pray to see the truth, whatever it is, and abide by it. Only then can you be free. If you are Catholic, then you must seek after the truth, however you are led to do so, and it truly will make you free. Most Catholics were not even allowed to read the “Bible”, or much of anything else not taught by the Church until after the 1500’s. In fact, they were forbidden to even own a Bible, and were not even allowed to read one except in Latin (Council of Toulouse). So my recommendation is that if you seek the truth, you must go back to how it was originally written and spoken, and the culture of that day. I always sought to understand why Priests and Pastors, etc., said what they said from the pulpit, and what I found was that 95% speak only what they learned in Seminary, whether Catholic or Protestant. Many are more confused than you are, but they have a job to do. It is so much easier just to accept whatever you are told, by whomever claims to be an authority, than to seek the truth for yourself. But the rewards for actually understanding the truth far exceeds the effort required to attain it. The Apostle Paul said admonished the followers to be like the Bereans, which meant to test everything that is said against the light of scripture. He was addressing the Church at Thessalonica, and he was using the Bereans were a group of believers who believed in Critical thinking, and were men of “Moral Character”, who tested everything that was taught against the Tanach, or, Torah (Law), Nevi’im (Prophets), and Ketuvim (Writings). During the first century, these were the authoritative sacred texts of the Jewish people. He couldn’t be referring to the New Testament, so they were studying Torah (or what the Greeks referred to as the “Pentateuach”. So the “Church” decided to make it against the law to read it in anything other than Latin because the ‘Parishoners’ couldn’t be trusted to understand “Their Truth”. Paul was correct to admonish all to be like the Bereans, who spent the time studying everything against the light of Torah, the Writings, and the Prophets, so that as he said in Acts, “as a result, many of them believed.” To blindly believe anyone on this earth, without questioning, is like a cult. It is worth the effort to seek after the truth. So, your Priests, Pastors, and Teachers have a job to do, but so do we. And ultimately, we are responsible for the Light we are given.


9 posted on 04/16/2026 6:28:29 AM PDT by Eli Kopter (ED)
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To: Milagros

civilization is optional. it is a choice. Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas made the choice to decline. the consequence of that choice is that others may also decline to be civilized in some cases while we generally choose to be civilized overall. the short version is FAFO.


10 posted on 04/16/2026 8:04:02 AM PDT by wafflehouse ("there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon" -Alice's Restaurant Massacree)
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To: Milagros

You really know how to piss an American off...


11 posted on 04/16/2026 10:49:39 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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