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Posted on 10/09/2025 12:49:07 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
In August, a guest on Tucker Carlson’s podcast said something that immediately caught his interest. The United States faces a fundamental rift “between heritage Americans and the new political class,” Auron MacIntyre, a columnist for Blaze Media, argued. “Heritage Americans—what are those?” Carlson asked.
“You could find their last names in the Civil War registry,” MacIntyre explained. This ancestry matters, he said, because America is not “a collection of abstract things agreed to in some social contract.” It is a specific set of people who embody an “Anglo-Protestant spirit” and “have a tie to history and to the land.” MacIntyre continued: “If you change the people, you change the culture.” “All true,” Carlson replied.
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I have an ancestor who ran a hospital at valley forge at the time of the battle of brandywine. His wife gave George washington a flip. She addressed him as “Sire” George Washington is reported as saying “We are all brothers now.”
That came to me by family lore and literature through the generations.
Only recently did I read that Ben Franklin made a famous jest at roughly the time of the battle of brandywine—which the revolutionaries lost. The wit said “If we don’t hang together, we will hang seperately.”
(Elon Musk repeated that line at Charlie Kirk’s funeral. )
That may be what George Washington was thinking of when he addressed my many gggg grandmother after his retreat from the losing battle of brandywine to Valley Forge.
A flip is a hot drink from the Revolutionary War era. It was a popular colonial cocktail made with ale (or beer), a splash of rum for alcohol, sugar or molasses, spices, and often a raw egg for creaminess. It was heated by stirring with a red-hot iron poker, creating a frothy, warming beverage enjoyed in taverns and homes. George Washington was known to favor it,
Uhh not exactly true. Maryland was founded as a colony for Catholics specifically in 1634. Lots of English Catholics like my ancestors came to Jamestown during and shortly after the English Civil War because they didn't want to live under the tyrant Cromwell and the joyless, humorless, self righteous, intolerant, Puritans....just like the ones in New England. Naturally they sided with King James, so when the Roundheads won, the Cavaliers came to Jamestown (why do you think UVA chose Cavaliers as their mascot?). My family was one of those that left and came to Jamestown in 1649.
My family is all German too but they ran with the scott’s irish from the 1700. King George called the revolutionary war—the Scottish Parson’s war. As it happened most of the officers in the revolutionary war on the frontier were scotts irish.
I’m still waiting on my SAR paperwork to be processed.
My mom's family were the Johnny Come Latelys. They arrived in the early 1700s. Dad's side of the family had already been here a couple generations by then.
We had ancesters in every war, going back to early Lancaster county. My sister joined the DAR... Western Virginia then out to the Westen Territories, plains, grasslands, Cimarron County, up into Nebraska. I reckon that’s a Heritage. Got some Bohunk in there too!
I need the hat!
My GGGGGrandfather was commissioned with Washington. He hasa commissioning document signed by John Hancock in a museum in Massachusetts. That’s how I was able to find him.
As a genealogy nerd, I’m loving this thread.
3/4 of my grandparents trace back to the 1600s here. The last 1/4 to the early 1800s. Mother always said we were Heinz 57 varieties - Scotch, Irish, English, German, Russian, Dutch, French. That was America to her. A little bit of everything thrown into the pot and what came out was an American stew - unique with a strong flavor.
We, all of us, are the varieties that love the culture stew that America brewed just for us. And whatever religion our ancestors came with, they contributed a stubborn determination to go their own way regardless of what the culture they came from determined they should be. They WANTED to be American and we are the beneficiaries of those longings to be part of this great experiment. They took great risks to travel here and plant us, their descendants, on this land. And I thank each and every one of them.
Nearly all my bloodline is Irish Catholic. My granny is a bit of a 'mongrel' and has Mayflower ancestry.
I'm often at odds whether I should assist Rome taking over the world or burning a cross whilst wearing a white sheet over my head.
Mine go back in this land to before the U.S.: an American Indian, Dutch settlers in the 1600s, Europeans in the 1700s. Post-Revolution, the 1800s brought the rest from northwestern Europe and assorted British Isles, with the last immigrant arriving almost 200 years ago. My children’s line also goes to the Mayflower.
Once they got here, every generation of my forebearers participated in the era of building essential systems in this country, from farming and livestock to transportation, communications, military, banking, construction, historical preservation and government. Were we wealthy? No, middle class. Anyone motivated could do very meaningful work without a college education and cover the bills for a home and family—this was the land of opportunity! Now it’s choked nearly to death by regulations, many levels of grift, and freeloaders.
It's not a question of "like." It's a question of truth.
I'm Catholic, and I agree the that U.S., its Revolution and Constitution and culture, emerged from Anglo-Protestant culture.
Had the colonies been mostly Jewish, or mostly Catholic, the history of this continent would have been very different.
Always with the Maryland, there were close to zero Catholics in America at its founding almost 150 years after my family got here, from as little as .4% to about 1%, close to zero.
I take it according to Carlson if your colonial ancestors settled in Maryland you lack American Heritage.
You should see if you qualify to join the Colonial Dames.
There were many Jews and Catholics among the early patriots, even though the major ethos of the USA was engendered by Protestantism in the sense that freedom and individual liberty meant a rule of law for all, but "no kings or popes."
Some examples:
One of the major financiers of the Revolution was a Sephardic Jew, Haym Solomon, whose gravesite in Philadelphia is in the historic colonial-era Jewish cemetery on well-traveled Spruce street in Center City, near both the Thomas Jefferson Hospital and the historic Pennsylvania Hospital founded by Ben Franklin. Solomon also founded a Sephardic synagogue that still exists in Philly.
King George III granted Maryland to John Carroll, who governed and established the only Catholic colony among the thirteen. His family are historic in Maryland, with many sites named after the Carrolls. The first Catholic cathedral in the U.S. was built in Baltimore.
Also of note in nearby DC was Father Patrick Healy, who served as president of Georgetown University 1874 - 1882. His Irish-born father purchased his mother, a mixed white and African slave woman, in order to free her and marry her; they raised a Catholic family. You may recall seeing the famous Healy Hall named after Father Healy on Georgetown's campus; it was pictured in the film The Exorcist.
“Were we wealthy? No, middle class.”
Right. We watch old Law & Order episodes. Seems like every time the episode deals with wealthy people, they always add something like “old Mayflower money”. Cracks me up ‘cause our line of Mayflower descendants is anything but wealthy — either lower middle class or near-poverty.
They were farmers or preachers, mostly. Actual preachers, not televangelist-type con artists.
Earliest I have found is we were here in the late 1600s. 1700s, and were overseers on a plantation in the 1830s.
My paternal grandfather immigrated to this country after WWI. Though he never was a practicing Jew (He went to the Dutch Reformed church) he was still marked as “Hebrew” on the ship’s passenger information. He was too old to fight in WWII but he worked for a company that was very much involved in the Manhattan Project. I guess that did not earn him the right to consider himself an American.
Now my mom’s family basically came here in time to get in trouble with Puritan authorities. One ancestor owned the land where Yale was later built. Sure that could be a point of pride but that does not compare to the one who got in big trouble for selling a boat to a local Indian. Knowing the difficulty boat ownership can cause I think the authorities were very wise to throw the book at him.
I am adopted so the above does not apply to my pedigree. Fortunately for the likes of Tucker my husband’s pedigree was impeccable so our children are at least half American Heritage breeding.
My husband’s ancestor was one of the Scot’s prisoners of war who came to New England as slaves after the Battle of Dunbar.
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