Posted on 09/17/2025 6:44:22 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner
(Sep. 17, 2025) — During the process of developing the U.S. Constitution Alexander Hamilton submitted a suggested draft for a Constitution on June 18, 1787. At some point, he also suggested to the framers a proposal for the qualification requirements in Article II as to the necessary Citizenship status for the office of President and Commander in Chief of the Military. Another version of Hamilton’s proposed Constitution and which principles were stated during the convention’s deliberations per Madison notes and journal (see work of Farrand – pg 619), was given to Madison near the close of the convention for inclusion in Madison record of events for the convention. Hamilton’s proposed Constitution was not accepted.
Alexander Hamilton’s suggested presidential eligibility clause:
“No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States.”
Many of the founders and framers rightly had a fear of foreign influence on the person who would in the future be President of the United States since this particular office was singularly and uniquely powerful under the proposed new Constitution. The President was also to be the Commander in Chief of the military. ... continue reading at: https://www.thepostemail.com/2025/09/17/constitution-day-17-sep-2025-a-lesson-from-history-is-being-a-born-citizen-of-the-united-states-sufficient-citizenship-status-to-be-president-the-founders-and-framers-emphatically-decided/
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Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of U.S. Constitution as adopted 17 Sep 1787:
“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
He, Kamala Harris, and Barack Obama should all be facing charges for fraud for raising campaign money while ineligible for office. Kamala Harris and Barack Obama also need to face additional charges for serving as vice president and president.
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It didn’t stop Obama. And Obama is on recording lamenting how much he hates the constitution and that it needs to be destroyed and remade in his own vainglorious image,
Born on US soil of two US citizens.
We’ll see if this thread restarts the natural born citizenship debate.
That’s a perennial topic here on Free Republic.
And while there are strong opinions, there is not a Freeper consensus on the subject. There is no consensus on what natural born citizenship means.
I still fall back on the statement of Obummers grandmother about how she was present for his birth in Africa. She had no reason to lie about it.
Bingo!
But that may be only because FR correctly allows posts by what might be called FRINOs. I think that clear-thinking FReepers agree on the definition of NBC
Obama and Harris show us we cannot afford for the American Left to so easily select our candidates. I hope for a resolution by the USSC asap.
IMO, the question will be resolved by a rational consideration in accordance with our country's established rules of contract interpretation. Readers can easily find those rules on the internet, but one of those rules is to interpret the intent of the parties.
As the author points out above, the mere term "citizen" was rejected and the term NBC utilized. Utilized not because of the practice of some other country, but because of the unique requirements of the U.S. That would include the fact that an overwhelming number of our population then included those with family members loyal to our most recent national enemy.
The single sentence NBC clause provided for two types of citizens, NBC or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption. The latter condition was included because although there were a number of attractive 35-year-old candidates, it was obvious there could be no candidates born of parents that were citizens at the time of the candidate's birth. Which is to say further: If one was born after the adoption, one was required to be NBC.
Post no 3 is the most substantial reason why the Framers required the Executive candidate to be a natural born citizen, whilst the representatives only had to be citizens.
Yes, it is.
The Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How of the “natural born Citizen” Term In Our United States Constitution: https://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/naturalborncitizen/TheWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyandHowofNBC-WhitePaper.pdf
Thx
You are very welcome. FYI, I also published a book on the subject of being a “natural born Citizen”: http://www.kerchner.com/books/naturalborncitizen.htm
FReeper Kerchner published an important book wrt being a “natural born Citizen”: http://www.kerchner.com/books/naturalborncitizen.htm
“Born on US soil of two US citizens.”
Did Melania get her US citizenship before or after Barron was born? Your suggestion would make him ineligible if she was not a Citizen at that time.
Would you also be willing to share your legal thoughts regarding the idea of letting a foreign national have major control of hiring and firing of many US govt. employees with Civil Service rights, and with capacity to eliminate programs which have been approved and financed by our Legislative branch, some of which were life saving programs and also enhanced our prestige and good opinion in the world?
Would you be willing to ask a non-leading question?
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