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I Was Wrong About Charlie Kirk
Jim. Treacher Substack ^ | 16 Sep 2025 | Jim Treaqcher

Posted on 09/16/2025 10:31:42 AM PDT by Rummyfan

There are a whole lot of people who need to make that admission in public more than I do. But I don’t mind being first. It’s the truth, and I’d like to explain why.

I never paid that much attention to Charlie Kirk when he was alive. I knew who he was, what a prodigy he seemed to be, and that more and more people on the right were listening to him. But I’m not his target audience: young. So I just said, “Okay, good luck,” and went on with my day.

But years ago, Kirk figured out something that most media figures on the right hadn’t grasped yet: Young people aren’t reading National Review. They aren’t reading Substacks by obscure, marginally employable shut-ins with nothing better to do. (Ahem.) They aren’t reading much of anything.1

No, they’re listening to podcasts. They’re scrolling TikTok.2 They’re going to big crowded conferences full of other young people they might get a chance to spend some private time with. So that’s how he reached out to them.

And, as I’m learning, he was a terrific messenger: young, articulate, knowledgable, rational, calm, focused. Every debate video I’ve watched so far has been very impressive. He was masterful at what he did.

I never believed he was racist, sexist, fascist, or whatever-ist, because liberals say that about everybody who ever disagrees with them. Like this guy, whose first reaction to Kirk’s murder was to whine about his own feelings:

(Excerpt) Read more at jimtreacher.substack.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: charliekirk; kirk; socialmedia; treaqcher
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1 posted on 09/16/2025 10:31:42 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
The left has no idea what’s happening right now. They think they can steer this story. They think their usual game plan will work: attack, obfuscate, lie, censor, etc. They think they can shut us up, after we all just saw the end result of those tactics.

Nah, man. Publicly murdering someone just for saying, “I disagree, and here’s why” is...

Well, it’s a turning point.

2 posted on 09/16/2025 10:34:30 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Ok In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.👨 )
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To: Rummyfan

Who is Jim Treacher? And what is TikTok.2?


3 posted on 09/16/2025 10:35:12 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

No idea but 2 is his second point. No spacing.


4 posted on 09/16/2025 10:45:58 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Rummyfan

Even those who knew Charlie by name and hated him based purely on nasty epithets they heard about him may start watching some of his videos and his interactions with those who disagreed with him. It might change a few minds.


5 posted on 09/16/2025 10:52:50 AM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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To: nickcarraway

The ‘2’ is a superscript for a footnote (which you can find at the bottom of the piece)


6 posted on 09/16/2025 10:55:10 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: nickcarraway

The 2 is a footnote, scroll down...


7 posted on 09/16/2025 10:55:26 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Rummyfan

“a terrific messenger: young, articulate, knowledgable, rational, calm, focused”

I also didn’t follow Kirk and was/am puzzled at all of the attention he’s now getting.

Mainly, were I to learn more about him, I’d focus on his positions and beliefs. Your description of him, which I believe is accurate, doesn’t tell me what I most want to know.


8 posted on 09/16/2025 10:57:28 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: fwdude

I have a friend who did that in the wake of his murder and said Charlie came off as a know it all type. I could see that a bit but I agreed with Charlie pretty much down the line. That said the smug arrogance of the left is orders of magnitude greater.


9 posted on 09/16/2025 10:57:38 AM PDT by xp38
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To: nickcarraway

What is TikTok?

A watch? Grandfather clock? 🤔

Generational gaps. Isn’t it wonderful!


10 posted on 09/16/2025 10:58:27 AM PDT by sjmjax
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... a friend ... said Charlie came off as a know it all type.

I could see that. But most passionately knowledgeable people come across like that.

No one can out-know-it-all a leftist, though. Maybe Charlie was playing their own game.

11 posted on 09/16/2025 11:13:41 AM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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To: xp38
Charlie came off as a know it all type.

I have watched a lot of his videos, over the years. There are "know it alls" (who usually know very little), and there are very well-informed people who seem to know everything. Mr. Kirke appeared to me to be the latter. When he spoke on topics of which I have personal or professional expertise, he got things right. Unlike democRATs and Big Media.

12 posted on 09/16/2025 11:19:14 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
this "Charlie came off as a know it all type. should be in italics, as those are not my words. They are a quote to which I respond.
13 posted on 09/16/2025 11:20:19 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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I agree with you and I’m just reporting the reaction of my friend who I would place in the mushy middle of the political spectrum. Voted for Trump in 2024 btw.


14 posted on 09/16/2025 11:24:31 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Rummyfan

He was extremally effective with young people.
I, myself, an old fart, liked him, but wasn’t that excited about him.
I met a lot of people from Turning point and I was always surprised about their intensity!
They were all basically kids!
Obviously, he knew how to address the young people!
Great job, faithful servant!


15 posted on 09/16/2025 11:27:15 AM PDT by AZJeep (sane )
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To: xp38

👍


16 posted on 09/16/2025 11:31:13 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: cymbeline

Plenty of videos to watch. 1000’s of them. YouTube, Turning Point USA web site, Rumble, ...


17 posted on 09/16/2025 11:47:55 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: cymbeline

Then go watch his videos...they are all over Youtube.


18 posted on 09/16/2025 12:57:37 PM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: Rummyfan

I wasn’t an avid follower of Charlie Kirk’s work, but i’ve seen many of his videos over the years. I never saw anything from him that wasn’t solidly in the mainstream of conservatism. But he had an audience of young people. And of course, the left can’t permit them to hear someone whose views are outside the college indoctrination effort.


19 posted on 09/16/2025 1:37:49 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: Rummyfan

Very well said.


20 posted on 09/16/2025 2:33:10 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (RIP, Charlie. Say hi to Andrew Breitbart. God protect your family. Justice for Charlie Kirk!)
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