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Posted on 08/18/2025 12:51:34 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell
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“No one wants Canada’s problems.”
Probably not, but I am convinced powerful forces in Washington DC want Canada’s resources, and have already launched a Soros-imitating color revolution of the alt right to achieve that goal. They are not stating it openly, but in code, just as Putin stated in code what he wanted — under a ridiculous pretext that Nazis were in power — but really he wanted the resources of eastern Ukraine. And now he has them. On FR there is quite a strong contingent of people who state Putin has every right to annex not just eastern Ukraine but all of Ukraine. This speaks to a new reality, a “big power” complex that says, big powers have rights to lord it over smaller countries, taking them over if they wish. The extension of this attitude is disturbing. Why should China therefore not have the right to take over Taiwan, or other Asian territory if they so wish? What are the limits on Russian expansion? Who else gets into the big power club? Would Brazil have carte blanche to invade its neighbors? If the UK play nice with DC, can they get back in (they were of course of this mind-set before 1939). Or France? Israel? Saudi Arabia?
And where do Americans stand on this, is it a natural part of the MAGA movement, is it opposed in principle to it and a return to a neo-con agenda, what is it really? What prevents a different emphasis and a planned ignoring of the think tanks and power centers of which I speak (and make no mistake, almost nobody in the mainstream of MAGA or FR membership has any standing with those people, they are what Paul Simon called a loose coalition of millionaires and billionaires — any billionaires on FR today?)
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The only substantive things we have in common with Canada is the English language and men’s professional ice hockey!
I think a more pragmatic approach would be for each Canadian province to become a state, based upon the residents of the province. By doing so, they would maintain their autonomy to a degree, yet enjoy the benefits of our Constitution.
The Canadians would enjoy the benefit of our Constitution; the United States would enjoy the benefits of the resources.
If the Canadians were liberals, they good govern themselves that way, like Washington or Michigan. If they were conservative, they could govern themselves like Arizona or Texas.
“A crazy idea; the only two provinces worth considering as states are Alberta and Saskatchewan.”
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Agreed. If there IS a plan to annex all of Canada, it’s a straw man offer designed to scare some Canadians and incentivize others, and be used as a negotiation tactic. The Art of the Deal. Shoot for the stars when all you really want is the Moon.
“I just want to make it clear in advance that I will only respond to reasoned and intelligent comments on this subject, and will ignore anyone repeating canards, maintaining the attitude towards them already expressed above. I don’t have time for idiots.”
You can put together all the analysis you want .
But not a chance this would happen.
What does Annexing Canada really mean? Does it mean making Canada a State or multiple states, does it mean making Canada a US territory, etc.
I think it would be impossible to add Canada as a State or multiple states, for example Alberta, it’s conservative and it would add 2 Republican Senators, as soon as the Democrats won back power, they would add Puerto Rico or multiple liberal US territories, etc..
We do not need the Liberal Canadian voters or U.S. Senators and U.S. House reps chosen by them. Together with the U.S. Dims they could be enough to make “single payer” government health insurance a U.S. reality.
Any “populist” U.S. threats about annexing Canada care more about the appearance of their own “success” and less about this Republic.
Alberta and Saskatchewan would be better off as independent countries if the provinces cannot work out a deal with Ottawa for greater sovereignty over energy, agriculture, and other matters. Over 200 years of separate political systems make the Canadian provinces incompatible with the United States.
“The only substantive things we have in common with Canada “ARE” the English language and men’s professional ice hockey!”
Absent the greenies and litigation specialists and such.
Enough possible energy, mining and minerals, food provisioning and such. But then politics and especially geopolitics gets messy.
One can imagine future conflicts will be about all the above, rather like the competition between haves and have-nots within any given frame of reference.
One could add to the four "regional" alliances which could align to provide for one another, though that's another story.
Canada today seems essentially greater Toronto versus everybody else, politically.
Our wonderful "Declaration" reminds us "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
Issues of "separation" will rise, because they must. In Canada's case, the Western states are servile to a national government now headed by a Canadian, who holds British and Irish passports as well, not to mention some lingering affiliation with Goldman Sachs and the like.
With the trajectory of Canada politically, some kind of separation politics, quite like Frenc-speaking Canada's also has been, is likely, going forward.
You’ve put a lot of thought into this. Would we be required to learn French ri satisfy the Quebecois?
If we take it over. We could send all the liberals there. That’s where they’ve always wanted to go anyway. They can really expand their Climate Change Tree House Club with both herds of Green Weenies.
Note carefully, I said there was a plan, not that you as FR members were in on it or supported it. Read my tagline.
I agree 100% with the basic premises of the MAGA movement. The problem is, the power structure in Washington DC is free to pursue whatever agenda they wish, and some of it may not be what you voted for. At the very least, we need to be vigilant that MAGA is not used as a premise to enable a different agenda, and its supporters fobbed off by partial returns (5% of illegals deported, tariffs, dissing Canada etc).
What’s really going on? Is the outcome going to be totally better than globalism, or just a sly return to pre-globalist neo-con American imperialism? A lot of people might like that. It’s natural to think one’s country is better than all the rest. In all cases it is not accurate, the only superior nation is the Kingdom of God.
Could we take part of Ontario, say everything west of Thunder Bay. There’s some great fishing in that area.
Mais, ouis! Certainement!
And we sure don’t want their electoral votes.
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“as their citizens come to the conclusion that Canada is incapable of meeting their economic basic needs”
If this is what the people of the western provinces believe, it is their duty to themselves and their families to seek a better deal.
Let the people decide their future.
US Statehood? No effin’ way.
Give ‘em 2 or 3 generations as a Territory and get more Americanized. The same with Greenland.
We don’t want EuroTrash Welfare Thinking.
Well alrighty then. Merde a la puissant treize.
Good post and I agree.
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