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Note carefully, I said there was a plan, not that you as FR members were in on it or supported it. Read my tagline.

I agree 100% with the basic premises of the MAGA movement. The problem is, the power structure in Washington DC is free to pursue whatever agenda they wish, and some of it may not be what you voted for. At the very least, we need to be vigilant that MAGA is not used as a premise to enable a different agenda, and its supporters fobbed off by partial returns (5% of illegals deported, tariffs, dissing Canada etc).

What’s really going on? Is the outcome going to be totally better than globalism, or just a sly return to pre-globalist neo-con American imperialism? A lot of people might like that. It’s natural to think one’s country is better than all the rest. In all cases it is not accurate, the only superior nation is the Kingdom of God.

Some general replies from what I’ve read so far.

I perceive the form of annexation would be to create five new states. BC, AB-SK-MB, ON, QC, Atlantic Canada. These would be roughly similar to Washington, Minnesota, Ohio, Massachusetts (if it were francophone), and Maine, in terms of politics, population and impact.

I assume our three territories would either join up with closest states, but Yukon could be absorbed by Alaska, in fact all three territories could be; Nunavut could be twinned with Greenland which I perceive is also coveted and perhaps will fall into line. (probably not without a fight)

As to the actual outcome for Quebec, almost sure to be independence, they would fight to the death any effort to absorb them into a huge anglophone country, so the plan as I outlined above would change into four new states. That’s eight new Senators and probably about 40 new representatives. So states 51-54, or 52-55 if Puerto Rico beats us to it, 53-57 if Greenland takes the bait (possibly Greenland would be absorbed into Maine, as a political entity).

Once again, I want to make it clear, I don’t see this as Trump’s prime project, but one he heard about at a meeting of influential backers, and decided to enable. What would Donald Trump care about Canada’s history or culture? Nothing. Partly because it’s a bit of a hothouse orchid difficult to expose to reality, and partly because it’s all foreign to American thinking anyway, the concept of a successful nation in North America not being a republic and having ties to Europe — unthinkable, essentially anti-American in its very nature. And this is why it persists in Canada, which to some extent is a vast project of denial, that the United States even exists, for many Canadians, it is an unknown void. The people you see coming across the border are in almost every case not part of Canada’s established classes, but socially isolated pro-American types (now having the rug pulled out from under their feet by Trump’s insults) or quite often, new Canadians visting their relatives or stocking up on bargains. The people who run Canada have no time for America or Americans, I know the attitude very well having lived with it for over 70 years.

It is very similar to the French attitude, or the London attitude, or the Dublin attitude — why should we care about whatever is beyond the pale? (it’s an expression that refers to the political situation in Ireland under British rule from Dublin). Irish people often refer to Dubliners as “west Brits” by which they mean, Irish who never fully rejected the united status of Ireland within the U.K. that existed pre-1916.

Eastern Canada is dominated by Loyalist thought processes; people with seven or eight generations of Canadian ancestors are likely to have a Loyalist origin. This is much less of a factor in western Canada, and people who are turned off by the culture in eastern Canada tend to move west (as I did in 1995). This is basically why western Canada is more pro-American than eastern Canada, but when Obama was in power, there was a thin veneer of pro-American sentiment in ruling circles of Canadian society, as in “okay, as long as a guy like him is in charge.” And I can see how that would leave a mark on the likes of J.D. Vance and Steve Bannon, the sorts of people who have a lot of influence over Trump who left to his own devices would probably be much less imperialist.