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Raw criminal investigation files are never released publicly

Very good point.

1 posted on 07/16/2025 9:33:40 AM PDT by lasereye
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agreed.
“investigator” or “law enforcement” reports can be (and ESPECIALLY if any politics or valuable property/money is in view) faked and frankly, faked royally.

in this case, with both corrupting factors involved, almost guaranteed to be highly unreliable. besides, it is past.

suggest we spend the time and energy demanding a (real) investigation of some of the current known problematic agents, influencers, corrupters, whatever...especially the anti-American ones (SorozNazi and his evil scions? Qatar, CAIR? and their front groups...hundreds of groups...will give entire careers to any honest investigators...)
oh yeah, a few of the college administrators


32 posted on 07/16/2025 9:50:17 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Andrew Branca has been making a lot of sense on this topic for the past week or so, starting with the point that we can be certain that there is nothing in the investigative file that implicates Trump or any of his more prominent supporters, snce the DOJ under Biden would certainly have leaked that while they had control of the file.

His other point is that if there isn’t sufficient evidence in the file to support prosecution, it would be beyond unusual to release that investigative information to the public. Victim information, others caught up in the investigation as witnesses or potential suspects but without sufficient evidence, none of that stuff is ever released to the public, nor should it be.

That said, I can’t shake the idea that there’s got to be more to the story — like how did JE induce Leslie Wexner to give him a $50MM house in Manhattan. Surely there’s a story there.k And how did he support his lavish lifestyle, and how did he manage to portray himself as an exclusive financial manager for so many years?

There’s a lot of smoke, but maybe not the exact fire that we’ve all been thinking for so many years.


34 posted on 07/16/2025 9:51:23 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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Tell me one scandal like this that ever went anywhere. Not counting Watergate which was a District of Corruption Three Ring Circus from the beginning. Everybody gets all huffy and the whole thing just fizzles out. The only “takeaway” is, NOBODY EVER GOES TO JAIL EXCEPT A GOPer with chrummy lawyers. Nothing is ever cut and dried in these scandals.


35 posted on 07/16/2025 9:51:37 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you have asylum in the U.S. and you go home to visit family, is it like violating a Protect Order)
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But now they are saying there was no crime? So why not release something?

This is such a dodge. There is a huge difference between releasing unredacted criminal files, and a total coverup.


36 posted on 07/16/2025 9:52:21 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Why this isn't and shouldn't go away:

1) There has clearly been a coverup for years on this issue. We told no video existed of Epstein's cell. Then, we get one with a one to three minutes missing (depending one what source one believes).

2) Gisselle Maxwell is in prison for sex trafficking underage girls. No sane person believe Epstein was the only abusing them. That means there are dozens of rape victims and dozens of rich, powerful men that got with raping then, including Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Bill Gates. That is an outrage and example of a two-tiered justice system.

3) If files have been altered, then we need evidence of that presented to the public and effort to bring those responsible to justice.

40 posted on 07/16/2025 9:55:24 AM PDT by Kazan
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Horrible point. We don’t have a democratic republic with Congress, et al, blackmailed. We need to get to the bottom of and end those practices with both our and the other/lead intel agencies involved.


46 posted on 07/16/2025 9:57:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Gossip hounds hardest hit.


52 posted on 07/16/2025 10:01:35 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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Conservative bloggers are starting to become a collective hive mind.


53 posted on 07/16/2025 10:02:23 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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IF you REALLY want to know, FCI Tallahassee inmate number 02879-509 knows ALL.


58 posted on 07/16/2025 10:07:34 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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So sick of this story. The movement is destroying itself over something that can be investigated properly rather than throwing paper into the wind.

Take a breath and let it get investigated the right way.


62 posted on 07/16/2025 10:12:09 AM PDT by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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YAWN, nothing burger story


63 posted on 07/16/2025 10:12:59 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Start cooperating with the Senate Finance Committee on Epstein and Leon Black. If you don’t, you can bet the issue is going to come with Ben Black in charge of around 50 billion dollars related to Ukraine . Trump has suddenly reversed course on Ukraine.

Black still hasnt been voted on.


67 posted on 07/16/2025 10:17:09 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Very good point.

Yes indeed. But most people don't seem to understand that, and so assume that the non-release of those files is corruption/coverup unique to Epstein.

At some point, you just have to say you're never going to convince the people who chose to remain ignorant, and move on.

69 posted on 07/16/2025 10:22:19 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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What is amusing about this whole thing is that the Trump angle is that we should pay attention to what he wants us to pay attention to.

This morning he was talking about how we should pay attention to the auto pen issue INSTEAD of the Epstein thing. Does he think we are incapable of paying attention to more than one thing at a time? The autopen thing is interesting and possibly criminal, but it’s gong nowhere unless someone starts talking.

What is it with people who think they can tell us WHAT to think, and then they get angry when we don’t? The visceral reaction is what has piqued the response by a lot of people.

He is doing so much positive stuff that I wish he would focus on that. And leave the “Biden sucked so bad” stuff at the door. Biden is gone. His stuff is getting fixed. I want Trump to look forward. He makes it difficult to do that if every comment out of his mouth is wasted on the past.


75 posted on 07/16/2025 10:27:29 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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“ Raw criminal investigation files are never released publicly”

I guess that’s why the Kennedy files took 60 years to release.

So, who owns all the evidence? Where does it go? And what happens to it?

I think we all know its in the incinerator by now.


79 posted on 07/16/2025 10:29:51 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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What? Hoax? Why was Epstein in jail? And then he kills himself over a hoax?

asked the STUPID maga girl.


86 posted on 07/16/2025 10:34:48 AM PDT by mom.mom (...and our flag was still there.)
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Yes, the precise point used by every guilty person who got away with it by bribes and coercion.

I don’t accept this. Just release everything you can and LIST everything that you cannot because of courts—it is not like anyone in MAGA is a fan of any court.

To do otherwise is to embrace the PERCEPTION that you are part of a coverup. d


88 posted on 07/16/2025 10:37:22 AM PDT by bobbo666
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There seems to be a push to present this as an "either/or" issue: either the entire DOJ/FBI organizations focus on Epstein and his clients, or the entire DOJ/FBI organizations focus on terrorists, illegal aliens, Demonicrat corruption, traitorous justices. the DeepState swamp, and other Demonicrat wickedness that is destroying the U.S..
96 posted on 07/16/2025 10:50:05 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (Make Austin Texas Again! )
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Where are the girls? Threatened?, Killed?, NDA? You think more would have sued.

Where is Pizzagate?

There was a lot of smoke.


98 posted on 07/16/2025 10:51:32 AM PDT by alternatives?
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all the fair weathers on this thread

will get their circular firing squad trophies

and the commie left will get on with destroying the republic

congratulations


108 posted on 07/16/2025 11:08:23 AM PDT by joshua c
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