Posted on 07/09/2025 2:44:17 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
I’m going to today play Paul Revere. “Big problems are coming. Big problems are coming.” President Trump has a problem, and he needs to hear about it and deal with it, before it gets out of control.
I’m referring to the announcement that there is no Epstein list.
I’m sorry, but no one is buying it. It looks silly. It looks arrogant. It looks like a cover-up. It looks like President Trump is protecting evil leaders in DC- who are being blackmailed by the Deep State. This is serious.
Many of President Trump’s biggest supporters are angry, shocked and disillusioned like I’ve never seen before.
They feel we can never defeat the Deep State unless this list is released. They feel this is a terrible betrayal of President Trump’s promise on the campaign trail to release the list. They think if this stands, his word can no longer be trusted.
Mr. President, please don’t shoot the messenger. I’m just telling you what MAGA nation is saying, feeling and thinking.
You promised to release the list. Pam Bondi said she was reviewing the list. Now suddenly, there is no list? Your own supporters see this as a typical DC conspiracy, cover-up, and the worst lie you’ve ever told. They don’t care about the reasons you have. They want it reversed N-O-W.
This problem is growing. It’s getting worse every day. You need to deal with it immediately. Your credibility is on the line.
I know. After all you’ve done for this nation, after all you’ve risked and sacrificed, after all the impossible battles you’ve won, after all you’ve accomplished to make America great again, you can’t understand how this one issue threatens all of that.
But it does.
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And just how do I mean it?
The Mossad connection is circumstantial and has to do with the funding of Epstein activities.
This is discussed in Whitney Webb’s first book:
https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-Blackmail-Intelligence/dp/1634243013
—Robert Maxwell was Epstein’s first substantial financial backer.
“Mossad was financing many of its operations in Europe from money stolen from Maxwell’s newspaper pension fund. They got their hands on the funds almost as soon as Maxwell made the purchase of the Mirror Newspaper Group with money lent to him by Mossad.”
The source for this is Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad case officer. This is Ostrovsky’s autobiography:
https://www.amazon.com/Way-Deception-Making-Unmaking-Officer/dp/0312056133
The story gets long and very involved after that—but both Webb’s and Ostrovsky’s books give plenty of clues.
Les Wexner of The Limited and Victoria’s Secret was Epstein’s “first substantial financial backer.” Robert Maxwell ran into troubles and was found dead early in Epstein’s career. Ghislaine and Jeffrey got together after he had passed away.
Wait a minute! I thought you said I was the biggest moron a few days ago!
What gives?
I don’t spend time tracking this kind of thing, sorry.
But, you don’t think people can ever be outdone by someone else?
I’m with you
That presser was horrible
WTH?
I guess we could debate the meaning of the word “substantial”.
Both figures were critical.
Without Maxwell’s initial support nobody would had ever heard of Epstein.
Wexner gave Epstein the next key big lift.
Epstein was working for or with Wexner from 1986. Before that he’d made connections with other rich men like Edgar Bronfman and Adnan Khashoggi.
I do see now that Robert Maxwell used Epstein to hide his funds when he got into financial trouble. Some sources say that Ghislaine met Jeffrey through her father as early as 1988, so Robert Maxwell and Epstein must have been doing business by then.
Interestingly, Maxwell and his associates embezzled $590 million and Epstein’s worth at his own death was $578 million.
Epstein did not come from a privileged background. He grew up in a working class neighborhood in Brooklyn, with his father being a construction worker and a city parks employee and his mother a school aide and a secretary for an insurance company. He attended two colleges in New York City but graduated from neither one. He was apparently an extrovert, who made friends and business contacts easily. It is the way Epstein worked his way up the success ladder. He was essentially a New York version of Bill Clinton, in both his ability to make good contacts and his sex addiction.
Not evidence, a theory or postulate. I tend to agree there is a list as several cabinet officials and directors said as much. However there was a lot of talk right at the beginning of the term. As such, it must at least be considered that after all the talk, once the list was really vetted and looked at, there may have been flaws in it. Maybe unverifiable data, poor investigation, wild rumors or unsubstantiated allegations.
I might also weigh this against I know PDJT has through action convinced me of his integrity, ability to weather a storm even when he is alone, thoughtfulness and excellent to impeccable judgment. I think he carefully weighs all the risks and benefits to a decision, and this is hidden by his brashness and New York persona. But it remains in my opinion that he has excellent judgment. This begets my trust in him. Therefore, i am willing to give a president who has earned my trust the benefit of the doubt, that he is acting prudently given the information he has. I also believe he is truthful and when he said there is no list, i at least consider that could mean to a reasonable likelihood that in fact, there is no list, rather a whole lot of wild ass guesses that dont amount to much.
So, no, i am not eating a shit sandwich with a big grin. I am merely willing to extend the benefit of the doubt based on observations of his character and willing to continue to observe with open eyes how this plays out. What i am unwilling to do is say that we should burn the whole Maga movement to rhe ground impulsively and emotionally because we were promised a list and currently do not have one. Along those lines, perhaps he had acted with some justified deception and is waiting low to observe if someone in the deep state produces a list in order to track and destroy a target that is cloaked deeply in obscurity to the point of not neing able to clearly identify who it is. If buried deeply, it would take a bunker buster to eradicate it. This one thing I do know, PDJT is not afraid to use a bunker buster given the correct and verifiable information.
However, this is just on person’s opinion.
Well no,question you and I are different. Bondi went out and lied about this. February 2025, there was a list she was reviewing, now theres no list. Now Trump confirms a list did exist by his latest comment that now we arent gonna release it because some names on the list weren’t involved in the sex crimes. Its a sh1t excuse because if they are smart enough to know that, then they can just name the people that WERE involved in the sex stuff.
No one is right on everything they handle. I’m not, you certainly aren’t, and Trump also is not. Its not being a traitor or losing support on someone to say they have something wrong or are doing something wrong, you point it out WHEN ITS SOMEONE YOU NORMALLY BACK AND RESPECT BECAUSE THEY ARE FALLING SHORT BY BEING WRONG. You don’t want them to be wrong, you dont want them acting poorly and sketchy, so you warn them, hey dont pull this crap on us. Keep your word. Keep your promises. Dont try to play us as stupid with a lie there is no list after saying there’s a list, and then coming out even later and confirming a list exists when you say we arent gonna release the list of names because not everyone was doing the sex stuff. So just release the names that were involved in the sex stuff. Its all we expected in the first place becuase thats what he promised he’d do.
This is a major unforced error hes made on himself. I dont like hes done it, I want him to do well, I want him to keep his word and not have his underlings say one thing and then later deny the thing exists. The. Ha e him confirm it exists when he says it wont be released, like he said it would. Not good. Not good no matter who it is who does this. I dont like anyone playing me for a sap. Especially on my side.
You’re fine with it. I’m not. So be it.
And so effing predictable of you. Of course we don’t agree. When the hell would you ever agree with me. We could book Vegas odds and make big bucks.
I am not fine with it and said as much. My umbrage it with that is the end of MAGA crowd. I am also willing to consider that he might know things we are not privy to know. Ergo i trust his judgment. But as i said i am always observing to see what the facts are and how they develop. Nothing more, nothing less.
But hey if there is a way we both make money on the prop, I am good with taking the bet to Vegas you proffered — just as long as the bookies lose!
The end of the maga crowd...
The idea that one instance of something will “end” the maga crowd is nuts. I never thought it would.
I am disappointed in him about this. It damages him because it damages peoples trust in him. They also tried to fool us and I dont appreciate it and others dont either. Some may leave now, some may leve later if its not corrected, some may stay. I think it depends on now much slack you will give him. If you didnt have a lot of love/faith in him it wont take much. So if anyones going now its because they didnt believe in him a great deal anyway.
That said I am still with him. Being criticsl of him doesnt mean you arent with him or that you dont want him to do well. For me its because I want him to do well thzt I am critical,of him when he screws up.
And this is a screw up. He needs to fix things with this. Bondi lied about this at his direction. I am reviewing it on my desk/there is no list. Then he comes out and says the list wont be released because some names arent in the sex stuff. Ok, so just release the names that are.
Its not being dealt with correctly and its not being dealt with the way he told us it would. Thats the issue and we have every right to hold him to his standards and words. We want him to do well, we want him to do what he said, not lie to us and then prove they lied with his comments later and a bogus excuse.
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