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To: cuban leaf

If AI’s are built (programmed) by having a feedback circuit based on our response to their answers, then eventually we will have a bunch of mentally ill AI’s.


6 posted on 07/07/2025 7:49:42 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Sailing the Seas of Ignorance on a ship named "Free Republic".)
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To: UCANSEE2
That raises deep questions. Thomas Szasz write the book "The Myth of Mental Illness" and IIRC he basically concluded that a lot of "mental illness" is just people thinking in ways that society didn't like. (I think he made exceptions for things like schizophrenia which appears to be a deep chemical imbalance and therefore an illness.) But I think of the "Karens" who want to see the Manager and who scream at people in public places. I admit that I always think of them as "mentally ill". But how "ill" are they? They're really just jerks, aren't they? They have weird ideas about their own place in society and how everything ought to revolve around their desires. That's a bad way to think. But is it "ill"?

Or think of the anti-Trump people who seem crazy. Turn it around. You can explain to them that abortion is bad, and guns are good, and they will tell you that YOU are the crazy one.

"Mental illness" is subjective in many ways. "I'm OK -- you're crazy."

AI isn't subjective about anything. AI doesn't think. AI doesn't have a narrative. But AI can predict choices and behaviors that lead to desired outcomes. AI can watch humans do all of our crazy stuff and the AI may be in an excellent position to tell us "Here's the solution you're looking for. This will solve your problem."

7 posted on 07/07/2025 8:06:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: UCANSEE2

Also, I don’t consider that to be AI. I used to be a programmer and IT. I consider AI to be programming that has ability to change its own code. If all it’s doing is making decisions with flags and switches, it’s just a program.

Now, it might be a really calm really sophisticated computer program. But ultimately it’s just a program written by someone. I wrote a program for a bank once that allowed them to sell investment products to people and they had the ability to pretend they bought it six months ago and even perhaps made a bunch of deposits between that 6 months ago and now and each one change the amount which may have changed the interest rate charge for all the days leading up to the current date. It was a mess of program but the point is it wasn’t artificial intelligence. It was just a computer program.


31 posted on 07/10/2025 8:59:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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