To: UCANSEE2
That raises deep questions. Thomas Szasz write the book "The Myth of Mental Illness" and IIRC he basically concluded that a lot of "mental illness" is just people thinking in ways that society didn't like. (I think he made exceptions for things like schizophrenia which appears to be a deep chemical imbalance and therefore an illness.) But I think of the "Karens" who want to see the Manager and who scream at people in public places. I admit that I always think of them as "mentally ill". But how "ill" are they? They're really just jerks, aren't they? They have weird ideas about their own place in society and how everything ought to revolve around their desires. That's a bad way to think. But is it "ill"?
Or think of the anti-Trump people who seem crazy. Turn it around. You can explain to them that abortion is bad, and guns are good, and they will tell you that YOU are the crazy one.
"Mental illness" is subjective in many ways. "I'm OK -- you're crazy."
AI isn't subjective about anything. AI doesn't think. AI doesn't have a narrative. But AI can predict choices and behaviors that lead to desired outcomes. AI can watch humans do all of our crazy stuff and the AI may be in an excellent position to tell us "Here's the solution you're looking for. This will solve your problem."
To: ClearCase_guy
> AI isn’t subjective about anything.
Perhaps, but it sure as hell isn’t deterministic. LLMs will often give different answers - some quite possibly true - for the same query.
8 posted on
07/07/2025 8:15:42 AM PDT by
glorgau
To: ClearCase_guy
"Mental illness" is subjective in many ways. No two people see the same rainbow.
11 posted on
07/07/2025 8:29:27 AM PDT by
UCANSEE2
(Sailing the Seas of Ignorance on a ship named "Free Republic".)
To: ClearCase_guy
But walking that line of thinking advances folks deeper into the weeds. The world is simple. It boils down to construction and destruction. Behavior is either constructive or destructive. The thinking that drives behavior is either constructive or destructive.
Anything with a track record of being constructive is healthy and good. Anything with a track record of being destructive is ill and evil. Societies are formed to preserve the healthy and good, while disciplining the ill and evil.
Why does the love of money have a track record of being ill and evil? We don't know. It just does. But walking in the weeds and trying to understand lovers of money, like the Bill Gates of the world, as not ill and not evil -- just differently thinking people -- ends up with all of us getting a needle in our arms that will harm or kill us.
AI can no better answer the question "Why is the love of money evil?" than we can. And therefore, as a tool left without the guidance and limits our Creator gave to us, it is even more likely to produce Bill Gates's than Billy Graham's.
13 posted on
07/07/2025 8:30:42 AM PDT by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: ClearCase_guy
Thomas Szasz write the book "The Myth of Mental Illness" and IIRC he basically concluded that a lot of "mental illness" is just people thinking in ways that society didn't like. The movement Szasz spawned is responsible for a lot of the mess we have today, resulting from mental hospitals having been closed and family members no longer able to have an adult relative committed for more than three days. Mass shooters, substance abuse, domestic abuse, random violence -- the treatment model today in mainly pharmaceuticals, which skim the surface but do not heal the spirit.
Behavior is, was, and remains the fruit of the spirit in an individual. Those without knowledge of God, those who do not surrender to His greater wisdom, and especially those who reject God, are not merely “ill.”
22 posted on
07/08/2025 6:14:56 AM PDT by
Albion Wilde
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