Posted on 06/30/2025 6:55:05 AM PDT by delta7
The author wants a finish like the Afghanistan war.
Oh gee. Another propaganda,piece for forever war. Whatcha shock.
Every sense but one: The Ayatollah and his mullahs are still there.
I smell the hand of getting Saudi buy-in here.
Sounds like a Derp Stater who pines for the glory days of Tet, Bosnia, Mosul, Falluja, Kandahar, Desert One, and waiting for the “Morning of the Big surprise” on the West/East German borders keeping def contracts rolling while some of the finest men in history were left without an explanation (or apology) for their sacrifices.
Billions wasted without finishing the job. That’s the way K-Street MIC likes it, ensures future business.
Ok please enough with this unconditional surrender stuff.
It prolongs wars and makes the enemy fight with harder resolve.
You just have to have tougher conditional terms:
1. Replace the Mullahs and clerics with the Prince of the late Shaw and have them executed or sent to Guantanamo bay for a 50 year vacation.
2. Allow Israel and US military to have control of all Iranian nuclear forces and facilities for X years
3. Keep and allied military force to help the Prince institute some sort of pro-western government and weed out the radicals for X years.
Etc
I think he’s saying the opposite of Afghanistan & all the other mid-east wars we’ve been involved with. They were never finished with absolute surrender. Which meant Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, who-ever, just came back to act again.
We keep reining Israel in, instead of letting them utterly destroy Hamas. Israel should not have to live with a terror group constantly attacking them. The world shouldn’t have to live with Iranians trying to wash the world with blood to bring back their Mahdi.
But how do you utterly destroy these people so they cannot come back & start again? I think we are stuck in ‘forever’ wars without many good options.
And while we fight wars of empire abroad, our largest cities elect foreign-born marxists to run them, and their political leaders promote replacement of native Americans with masses of unvetted migrants, using massive debt spending in our printed, fiat currency.
The real war is at home. The next foreign war we get sucked into will cause the downfall of the United States.
“They were never finished with absolute surrender.”
Tell that to Saddam, AIQ, Fedayeen and dozens of others. What about Khadaffi or Assad or the Mahdi? Any other KGB losers you want to support?
Psst, most wars since 1776 were about money. could be debated but easy to find financial coincidences.
Agree with this author. Hudna dimmie translation cease fire, mullah translation reloading.
Oh gee. Another propaganda,piece for forever war. Whatcha shock.>>. It was the Israeli’s war we interfered with. Should let them finish it. they had boots on the ground mossad and planes. we might have had to resupply bombs but, let they Israeli’s win their own war.
Who says Afghanistan is finished?
Trump blew this one. The strikes were a success, but failed in his unconditional surrender demand. It made him look weak.
It bought the world some time, stay tuned.
Israel is never allowed to win a war any more, not since 1967.
And the U.S. has put itself in that position also, quite voluntarily and, I might add, quite stupidly.
I would personally rather see neither country need to get involved in any wars in the future. But the question is, “how do we accomplish that at the lowest possible cost?“ Because, let’s not kid ourselves, there are some very bad actors around the world, and they have both us and Israel (and the rest of Western Civilization, but they are mostly useless in defending even themselves - they exist because we do) in their sights. To me, the most effective way to deter future conflict that originates from our enemies involves more short-term cost, but most definite long-term gains. That way is actually quite simple: when either Israel or the United States get involved in a war, prosecute it until the other side is forced to unconditionally surrender. That will involve an awful lot of public pressure being brought to bear against rither nation, and particularly against Israel, but if their enemy in such a conflict is completely demolished, the deterrent effect of that on future enemies would be enormous. As it is, all that the enemies of Western Civilization need to do is suck up a lot of punishment, knowing that we or Israel will go away soon enough, because of our moral cowardice in the face of rhetorical pressure from the rest of the world.
Again, I’d rather see no more conflicts in the future anywhere, but that does not reflect humanity’s history, nor the current world situation. There is going to be conflict in the future, and it is the job of sensible and rational people with some intestinal fortitude to make sure that the number of such conflicts is reduced to the minimum possible. That can only be accomplished with great strength - not just military strength, but most particularly great moral strength to see the thing through. What would the world look like today if the allied nations had tired of war by late 1944? After all, the cost in blood and treasure was enormous, and in the case of both Germany and Japan it was known that there would be further enormous costs until they were defeated. Both Nazi Germany and imperial Japan would have survived, and the world would be unrecognizable today. Instead, the leaders of the United States, the Soviet Union and the UK (no one else mattered that much ) understood that our mutual enemies needed to be utterly destroyed, if there was to be any hope for a peaceful world (for a while) after their defeat.
Peace is achieved through strength, military strength to be sure, but most particularly through the moral strength necessary to complete a hard and costly job.
If Israel could win their very long war, they would have won it already.
Well, right now there are mor important thinks that need attention. We cannot afford a forever war, unless we sacrifice this nation. Without this nation, the whole world falls into utter chaos.
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So, while the author is correct, he misses the bigger picture. Also, it is time for the people of Iran to rise up and fight their leadership. If they do it, they may just receive the help they need from the world community assisting them, if they ask for it.
Biblical Prophecy states wars right up to “ the end”….in fact, wars will increase across the globe. Awareness, not fear, just something that we must recognize.
Any other KGB losers you want to support?
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You are certainly misreading what I wrote. I’d like to see the entire Muslim religion eradicated from the earth. Islam is the problem with all of these. Unfortunately, we can’t even ban it from the US, much less deal with it somewhere else.
As long as their is Islam, there will be war. It IS our Forever War. And I am NOT happy about it.
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