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What Does ‘Separation of Church and State’ Really Mean?
Alliance Defending Freedom ^ | 05/02/2025 | Andrea Dill

Posted on 05/02/2025 10:44:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/02/2025 10:44:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Be careful when you want to use tax dollars to fund religious charter schools.

There are religions out there that preach their superiority over America’s constitution, and that killing infidel are justified. ( You know what religion(s) I mean ).


2 posted on 05/02/2025 10:47:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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3 posted on 05/02/2025 10:47:45 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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To: SeekAndFind

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4 posted on 05/02/2025 10:47:54 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner ( retired military officer, natural law, Vattel, presidential, eligibility, natural born Citizen )
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To: SeekAndFind

Article 52 [Religion]

(1) Citizens of the USSR are guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is, the right to profess or not to profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is prohibited.

(2) In the USSR, the church is separated from the state, and the school from the church.

-Constitution of the USSR


5 posted on 05/02/2025 10:50:41 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: SeekAndFind

A reprint of that letter would be great to post on those liberal sites (those of you who are brave enough to visit them) whenever they come up with that nonsense about this.


6 posted on 05/02/2025 10:52:41 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is simple:
When the constitution was written, all countries had
State religion.
Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, Calvinist, Islam, Buddhism, Shinto, ...

The non-state religions were tolerated at the best, taxed, discriminated, persecuted or illegal, in most cases.

All what the founders wanted is, that there would not be State religion in the US!
Very radical concept in late 18th century!


7 posted on 05/02/2025 10:52:50 AM PDT by AZJeep (sane )
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To: SeekAndFind

Good post!


8 posted on 05/02/2025 10:56:16 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: SeekAndFind

The time has come for separation of school and state.


9 posted on 05/02/2025 11:01:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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There are religions out there that preach their superiority over America's constitution, and that killing infidel are justified. ( You know what religion(s) I mean ).

Yeah.

Like the Marxists.

And the Sodomites.

There should be a wall of separation between schools and state.

10 posted on 05/02/2025 11:12:41 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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One of the things you find in Europe is the repeated phrase that "religion is a PRIVATE thing". In other words you can believe as you like as long as; there are no outward signs and you do not allow your beliefs to have any influence on your public life and you do not teach your children.

In the US we said you need not hide your religion, as long as you are not violating the laws of the land, (murder, rape, banditry) you may wear it on your sleeve if you like or if you don't. Wear your yamaka, rosary or kara.

11 posted on 05/02/2025 11:22:59 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It means the state can’t run the church.


12 posted on 05/02/2025 11:24:46 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says it.)
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To me, it simply means the government can’t name a national religion. They can’t dictate everyone will be Catholic or Baptist etc. it doesn’t mean we can’t have religion, just that it can’t be mandated.


13 posted on 05/02/2025 11:36:45 AM PDT by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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The trouble is that the liberals that read those sites would ignore it because they disagree with it.

Some years back our local polling place was held in a church just up the road. While standing in line I overheard a woman get quite vocal about how voting should not be allowed in churches because we're supposed to have "separation of church and state".

14 posted on 05/02/2025 11:46:49 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: SeekAndFind

It means that we have choice....the government makes its rules...the churches make their rules.


15 posted on 05/02/2025 11:48:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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It can be separation of the church from the state OR the separation of the state from the church ... by which I mean that one must be able to take first place in the loyalties and devotions of the people.

The question is where does the people’s rights and obligations lay: if the people are free in their conscience then they have they right to regulate their government accordingly ... and this is the construction of the 1st Amendment.

But if the government commands the primary loyalty of the people then they are not ultimately free but are bound to observe certain things as “private” and not to intrude on the “public”.

Ultimately the freedom of people vs the freedom of the government.

The idea of a mutual separation, of the “and”, is an abuse at this time in the hands of those who wish the to subject us.


16 posted on 05/02/2025 11:54:02 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher )
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To: SeekAndFind

Then there is that entire Climate cO2 cult thing……


17 posted on 05/02/2025 11:54:11 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: SkyDancer
I have been posting about Jefferson's letter to the Danbury church fathers, HERE, since joining FR in 1998, whenever this topic comes comes and apparently to little avail, since 1) I've gotten a lot of stupid arguments about it 2 and nobody seems to remember what I've written.

With this thread, hopefully the FACTS will finally sink in. :-)

18 posted on 05/02/2025 12:03:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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Well I’d keep on saying that that’s not in our Constitution. If it is, show it to me, otherwise I’ll take it you never took civics or American history - then too, where are you from? Are you a citizen?


19 posted on 05/02/2025 12:04:39 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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I’ve got to get a copy of that letter to keep with me.


20 posted on 05/02/2025 12:05:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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