Posted on 04/22/2025 4:05:20 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
Making up legislation from the bench. Move these terrorist gangsters in to the judges chambers. And gangs are VERy protective of their tattoos. You don’t go get gang tattoos without doing something formthe gang and getting them approved by the gang. This stupid arse judge probably thinks the MS13 face tattoos are just fashion statements.
And beside, they are ILLEGALALIENS. Nothing else needed to kick their arses back to Venezuela.
Easy answer. Trump has the authority to “Partially Mobilize” the reserves for up to two years. That’s up to a MILLION members of all branches of the Reserves, so the Naval Reserves should and could assist with mass deportations.
One of the ACLU filings is at https://assets.aclu.org/live/uploads/2025/03/MEMORANDUM-OPINION.pdf
Here is one source cited by ACLU lawyers: https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/03/20/human-rights-watch-declaration-prison-conditions-el-salvador-jgg-v-trump-case.
Here is a quote from that study:
“While CECOT is likely to have more modern technology and infrastructure than other prisons in El Salvador, I understand the mistreatment of detainees there to be in large part similar to what Human Rights Watch has documented in other prisons in El Salvador, including Izalco, La Esperanza (Mariona) and Santa Ana prisons. This includes cases of torture, ill-treatment, incommunicado detention, severe violations of due process and inhumane conditions, such as lack of access to adequate healthcare and food.”
These claims are being made on the basis of interviews with 11 prisoners. Some of the people interviewed spoke of police beating them, which is a separate issue than their treatment in prison. If we looked at the statistics of beatings in jail as opposed to prisons, there are a lot more beatings in jail than in prison. Yet Human Rights Watch speaks of treatment in jail as if it was the treatment received in prisons. Much of what is described in this declaration is very, very similar to the abuses we heard about from J6 prisoners in DC prison. Keep in mind that J6 prisoners were imprisoned for walking through the Capitol; these people are in prison because they belonged to gangs you had to kill somebody to belong in. And all the reports came from prisons other than CECOT.
El Salvador says they have imprisoned 85,000 people. In the three years since they started imprisoning gang members, El Salvador human rights groups estimate that at least 350 people have died in prison.
This declaration talks about how nobody ever leaves CECOT but they base much of what they say about the treatment in prisons on interviews they did with 30 people who were released from prison - IOW, nobody from CECOT. They talk of interviewing relatives and viewing medical records of people who died in prison but based on how they assume that CECOT is just like other prisons we don’t know whether these are CECOT prisoners or not. But they looked at 11 cases and talk about there being bruises on 4 of those 11 bodies.
This is not a credible report regarding CECOT. It mashes other prisons, jails, and CECOT all together as if they were all the same. What they fail to realize is that the police these gang members encountered have probably lost family members to the gang. They are after their pound of flesh within those first 3 years when the gangs that held their whole nation hostage were first being rounded up.
Bruises on the bodies of gang members? I wonder how many of them had bruises already simply because the requirement to be in MS-13 and other gangs is to take a beating from the gang. If there were 85,000 prisoners and 350 of them died, that is a death rate of .41% for all the prisons in the country. According to https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/mortality-state-and-federal-prisons-2001-2019-statistical-tables . in the US, the death rate for state and federal prisons combined is .29%.
The declaration says, “For “We Can Arrest Anyone,” Human Rights Watch and Cristosal gathered evidence of over 240 cases of people detained in prisons in El Salvador with underlying health conditions, including diabetes, recent history of stroke, and meningitis. Former detainees often describe filthy and disease-ridden prisons. Doctors who visited detention sites told us that tuberculosis, fungal infections, scabies, severe malnutrition and chronic digestive issues were common.” “We Can Arrest Anyone” was written in Dec 2022, 10 months after Bukele’s military crackdown began. CECOT was not even opened until late January of 2023. According to https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/el-salvador the top cause of death in El Salvador is violence (85%) At the time of these numbers (presumably before Bukele’s crackdown) El Salvador had the highest rank in the world for death by violence. They were 3rd in the world for kidney deaths and 6th for death by alcohol. The people coming into these prisons were most likely not in very good shape from the outset.
The only part in this declaration that specifically deals with CECOT says this:
“People held in CECOT, as well as in other prisons in El Salvador, are denied communication with their relatives and lawyers, and only appear before courts in online hearings, often in groups of several hundred detainees at the same time. The Salvadoran government has described people held in CECOT as “terrorists,” and has said that they “will never leave.” Human Rights Watch is not aware of any detainees who have been released from that prison. The government of El Salvador denies human rights groups access to its prisons and has only allowed journalists and social media influencers to visit CECOT under highly controlled circumstances. In videos produced during these visits, Salvadoran authorities are seen saying that prisoners only “leave the cell for 30 minutes a day” and that some are held in solitary confinement cells, which are completely dark.”
These conditions sound really, really similar to the conditions in the DC prison the J6ers were held in. And again - these were prisoners who walked through the Capitol. Some may have defended themselves from rubber bullets fired into the peaceful crowd and other law enforcement provocations.
I’m not saying I would want to live in CECOT. Some of these people are awaiting trial and may end up being released. CECOT has been open just over 2 years; saying nobody has ever gotten out of there is a bit melodramatic, considering J6 prisoners sat in jail for 4 years, and 7 years is the average wait for immigration hearings in the US...
All in all, if this is the best the ACLU lawyers can come up with, it’s pretty thin gruel.
I remember when David Duke was the Grand Wizard back in the day and when he was a Louisiana State representative. He campaigned on implicitly being against illegal immigration and foretold this would happen some day. Pat Buchanan did too and predicted the same.
If that is how these specific people got here then they do NOT have legal permission to be here. Biden did not do the necessary step of individual vetting to determine a need for asylum BEFORE they could be allowed in. These people side-stepped due process and are here illegally.
What happens on CECOT is irrelevant to US Courts.
It’s in a foreign country and it’s a prison for citizens of that country.
Yes, but the ACLU is saying that Trump is violating a law which says we adhere to the UN’s pledge to not send anybody to a place where they might be tortured. That’s the basis for saying this was an administrative issue rather than a habeas issue.
Garcia didn’t look like he was hurting in the photos with Van Hollen. Van Hollen had a perfect chance to ask him if he had been mistreated by guards or prisoners, what his day was like, etc. Did he? Dems are asking for daily proof of life - not realizing that the attention they are giving him is making him enemies amongst the prison population, to the point that because of the special treatment he’s received he has to be in solitary now. This fear-mongering is drummed up by the ACLU via citations such as the one I linked to, but when you look at that declaration the stuff about CECOT is NOT stuff this gal knows first-hand, as she claims in her sworn statement. She is only ASSUMING that CECOT is like the other prisons they’ve studied, while actually acknowledging that CECOT probably has better facilities and accommodations.
Some of the stuff complained about is simply a matter of not giving these guys anything they can use to kill each other. They are, after all, from rival gangs. No mattresses or bedding = nothing to hang each other with. No silverware = nothing to stab each other with. No visitors = nobody to bring weapons or to get in a fight with.
Another thing people might not realize is that MS-13 leadership has been running things FROM PRISON IN EL SALVADOR for a long time. You can’t allow any form of communication between the outside world and the prison because in the past that has allowed for gang operations to be conducted from prison. Unfortunately, communication with family is just as dangerous as any other kind of communication because the family is easily coerced by anybody in the gang who is outside of prison, and could easily be a messenger. We’ve seen how the wife who knew about Garcia’s MS-13 tats on his knuckle and also filed for protection orders against Garcia for the safety of herself and their child has said out loud whatever MS-13 wants her to say. What would they be communicating if she was able to visit him or speak to him?
Inmates can get permission to read the Bible. My father-in-law was a chaplain at a maximum-security prison in TX until he retired, and he said that you really don’t want to give convicts access to Muslim stuff if you can possibly help it because the pathology of Islam aligns so closely with the pathology of sociopathy which the convicts are already badly enmeshed in.
And I’ll just add this too. MS-13 and other gangs communicate through non-verbals. Even allowing a photo or video of a prisoner can be used to communicate hidden meanings to somebody outside the prison.
If prisoners were allowed to communicate with attorneys those attorneys would be extremely vulnerable to gang extortion or violence, as they would be a prime means of communication with the outside world.
I was reading about a judge who responded to a J6-er’s pleas for relief from the abuse he received in multiple prisons; he basically said it was all the J6-er’s fault. Anything the guards did to him was because he was being an a$$hole, basically.
So there is precedent to say prisoners get exactly what they have coming. In the case of these gang members, you can’t let them have exercise equipment, you can’t let them have visitors or laptops, you can’t give them hobbies that would provide equipment that could use creatively to do the one thing they care about: further the goals of the gang. You can’t give them free time and the ability to move about freely, because they will beat each other up if you do.
We are dealing with animals. Actually, worse than animals. The people thinking prison should be the Hilton are not comprehending what has been done to these people’s consciences and just how devious they can/will be if you allow them ANYTHING.
Unless the plan is to identify rift all the corrupt judges !
You have less experience with spinning up government-funded organizations than Erik Prince does, and here he offers an example of what could be done, starting around 23:30:
https://rumble.com/v6s6clr-episode-4417.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Send them to the judge’s neighborhood and to every privileged lefty enclave in America and this will all end very quickly. I recommend starting with the Hamptons.
Doj should fire his arprivilege. full of senility and priviledge.
Don’t like the use of the old Alien Invaders Act? Okay, just use the general “illegals get deported” period.
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