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Hillary’s War: How Clinton’s Russia Hoax Helped Ignite the Ukraine Bloodbath
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-24-25 | DrJohn

Posted on 02/24/2025 6:41:30 AM PST by Starman417

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1 posted on 02/24/2025 6:41:30 AM PST by Starman417
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Starman417: "I don't necessarily agree with Sachs about Israel, but it's a great video about the Ukraine conflict."

For the same reasons that you don't agree with Sachs about Israel, those are reasons you should not agree with him about Ukraine -- he is not trustworthy, period.

from the article: "The war in Ukraine is at a stalemate and has been for almost three years, except that Russia seems to be gaining ground more and more quickly.
Things are not going well for Ukraine.
It's a lot worse than the media is portraying."

All that kind of talk is lies and nonsense and only means that Sachs has been drinking down the Russian propaganda Kool-Aid.

The reality is that both sides are hurting badly, and Russians attacks are down by around 25% so far this year.
Russians have not gained significant new ground since 2022.

2 posted on 02/24/2025 6:51:44 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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3 posted on 02/24/2025 7:00:42 AM PST by gundog (The ends justify the mean tweets. )
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To: BroJoeK
The reality is that both sides are hurting badly, and Russians attacks are down by around 25% so far this year. Russians have not gained significant new ground since 2022.

Even for someone pro-Ukraine, we should not promote sheer nonsense. Russia is in a frontal war with Ukraine and NATO. It changed from a decapitation / blitzkrieg in February 2022, to front-line positional war / trench warfare in April 2022. Russia is in the process of destroying Ukraine's (second) army, removing all productive and war-making power from the whole of Ukraine, and eliminating NATO weapons.

Russia still relies completely on volunteers to fight this war. It has not been forced into conscription. It is not hurting badly

Promoting the lies you have for the purpose of continuing this globalist/EU/neocon inspired slaughter is immoral

4 posted on 02/24/2025 7:09:41 AM PST by PGR88
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To: BroJoeK

The real take away is that democrats disastrously play politics with foreign policy. They get a LOT of people killed, turn whole regions over to our enemies, and they sleep fine at night because they are scumbags.

A short list of their disasters: Afghanistan, Iran, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Ukraine, Brazil, Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia. If they’d been in power we’d still have the Soviet Union.


5 posted on 02/24/2025 7:13:15 AM PST by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: PGR88

The propaganda war is still running hot.


6 posted on 02/24/2025 7:14:24 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: Starman417

The reckoning that this witch is heading toward will be biblical in scope.

Ukraine war isn’t about ‘freedom’ or ‘sovereignty’ and anyone that tells you that is either foolish or lying. There is no victory for any side, except perhaps those with ties to the MIC.

The war must be stopped, and the filth aired out for the world to see.


7 posted on 02/24/2025 7:22:22 AM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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Bkmk


8 posted on 02/24/2025 8:19:27 AM PST by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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To: Starman417

Helium filled inferences


9 posted on 02/24/2025 8:21:47 AM PST by Wuli (qq)
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I've often wondered how much Hillary's Uranium One scandal influenced Russia's decision to attack Ukraine. The result is the U.S. owns a lot less uranium, which means less energy security in an era that the left hates on oil and natural gas drilling and coal mining.

A nation's energy security is part of the calculus to a nation's military security. If Russia thinks that the U.S. has less ability/desire to interfere, combined with Russia making some money when their wars increase the price of oil and natural gas, that might be part of Putin's decision to lean a little bit towards invading Ukraine.

Even now, with Trump in office, if we build nuclear power plants we'd have to buy even more uranium from Russia than we're already doing. So if we go full boar on nuclear power, I'm afraid that we'd be in a pickle if Russia decides to hold back on selling us uranium.

10 posted on 02/24/2025 8:28:50 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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She’s the root of a helluva lot of evil, isn’t she?


11 posted on 02/24/2025 9:25:15 AM PST by simpson96
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The Russian laughed when he saw Hitlery’s “re-set” button.

He stated that it actually said “Over-charged.”


12 posted on 02/24/2025 9:41:05 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Russia? China? Democrats and RINOs are the biggest threat to the survival of America.)
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To: BroJoeK

Ukraine has reached the same point as the German Imperial Army in 1918. They’re still (mostly) holding on. The troops haven’t totally surrendered across the line, but that might be just around the corner. Time to cut a deal.


13 posted on 02/24/2025 9:48:58 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Starman417

We really do need war crimes trials for past secretaries of state. Republicans not exempt, BTW.


14 posted on 02/24/2025 10:54:14 AM PST by Salman (In Hell it is a punishable offense not to call it Heaven.)
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PGR88: "Even for someone pro-Ukraine, we should not promote sheer nonsense. "

I'm seeing a lot of sheer nonsense in your post, so where did you get it, if not from the information sewer pipes of the Kremlin's Ministry for Agitation and Propaganda?

PGR88: "Russia is in a frontal war with Ukraine and NATO.
It changed from a decapitation / blitzkrieg in February 2022, to front-line positional war / trench warfare in April 2022."

"WWI style trench war" and "attrition war" are the normal terms.
Maneuver warfare (as opposed to static "frontal warfare") was launched by:

  1. Russians in February 2022
  2. Ukrainians in March (Kiev), August (Kherson) & September (Kharkiv) 2022
  3. Ukrainians in Zaporizhzhia in June 2023
  4. Russians near Kharkiv in May 2024
  5. Ukrainians in Kursk in August 2024.
As for saying NATO is fighting alongside Ukrainians, that's strictly a Russian propaganda point unrelated to facts on the ground.
It's similar to saying that Americans fought against Russians in Korea and Vietnam, rather than against North Korean (+Chinese) and North Vietnamese troops.

PGR88: "Russia is in the process of destroying Ukraine's (second) army, removing all productive and war-making power from the whole of Ukraine, and eliminating NATO weapons."

Ukrainian civilians killed in Bucha, 2022:

The Russians' own battle death-toll is running around three-to-one overall -- and in Russian "meat wave" assaults, up to five-to-one and more -- compared to Ukrainian losses.
Wounded is a different matter, and those numbers typically run three-to-one over KIAs, but "wounded" includes both seriously wounded and lightly wounded -- lightly wounded being able to return to service, at least in some form.

My point is, it's not only Ukrainians who are being attritted in attrition warfare.
Russians are also suffering as much or more, relatively speaking.
Of course, if your information sources are Russian propaganda, you won't know that, right?

On Russia's destruction of Ukraine's infrastructure, there's no doubt it's serious, with over 50% of Ukraine's electric generation and 20% of hospitals hit by Russian attacks, not to mention historical buildings and whole towns reduced to rubble.
However, Ukrainians are good at making rapid repairs and even today, in the cold of winter, Ukrainians still receive over 2/3 of their minimum electricity needs.

Battle of Bakhmut, 2023:

Ukraine's military is a different subject -- it is still roughly 1,000,000 personnel, still adequately equipped & trained and still backed by significant Ukrainian military-industrial capacity.
For examples, in 2024, Ukrainian industry delivered over 1 million air, ground & sea drones, plus 155mm artillery howitzers & ammunition, Neptune & Sapsan missiles.
Overall, Ukraine's military industry is said to supply roughly 30% of Ukraine's needs.
The rest comes from Ukraine's allies.

PGR88: "Russia still relies completely on volunteers to fight this war.
It has not been forced into conscription.
It is not hurting badly"

Of course not, if you believe Russian propaganda.
In reality, Russians have suffered more deaths and wounded than in all its conflicts since 1945 combined, and remember, the Old Soviets abandoned Afghanistan in 1989 after suffering only a small fraction of their losses in Ukraine.

Putin & Solovyov:

As for conscripts, Russians are indeed using conscripts among the 60,000 troops they've deployed in counteroffensives against Ukrainians in Kursk oblast.
As for "volunteers", many Russian troops were "volunteered" as the alternative to lengthy prison sentences for very minor "crimes".

Moscow and St. Petersburg are paying enlistment bonuses that amount to nearly two years of average workers' salaries.
The result is, Russians have been able to replace their average monthly losses in Ukraine.

But so have Ukrainians.

PGR88: "Promoting the lies you have for the purpose of continuing this globalist/EU/neocon inspired slaughter is immoral"

Drinking Russian propaganda Kool-Aid is not only immoral, it's stupidly insane.

  1. "globalist/EU/neocon" is 100% fact-free Russian propaganda talk, straight out of the mouths of Vladimir Solovyov, Olga "Iron Doll" Skabeyeva and Margarita Simonyan.

    Simonyan, Solovyov, Skabeyeva, Nordkin:

  2. So, regardless of how much you love your fellow Russians, you people invaded Ukraine and so must suffer the consequences of fierce Ukrainian resistance.

  3. There is no evidence today that even one Ukrainian wants to live under Vlad the Invader's jackboots, or is willing to accept Russian military victory over Ukraine.

  4. The cease-fire that Pres. Trump will negotiate will likely leave Russians still in occupation of Ukrainian territories, but it will also put Ukraine in the EU and EU peacekeeping troops in Ukraine.
    Some $350 billion in frozen Russian assets will not be returned to Russia and can be used to help rebuild Ukraine.

  5. It will further increase NATO military spending by hundreds of $ billions per year, thus guaranteeing that Russian empire building ambitions will be thwarted in eastern Europe.

  6. As for your alleged "globalists" and "neocons", those are empty Russian propaganda weapon-words intended only as insults, not as anything factual or meaningful.

15 posted on 02/25/2025 8:01:09 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: Tallguy
Tallguy: "Ukraine has reached the same point as the German Imperial Army in 1918.
They’re still (mostly) holding on.
The troops haven’t totally surrendered across the line, but that might be just around the corner.
Time to cut a deal."

By March 1918, the German Imperial Army had defeated the Russians and were transferring over 1,000,000 troops from their Russian front to France.
These new troops allowed Germans to launch several new offensives against Western Allied forces, offensives which took about 1,200 square miles of French territory before the Allied Hundred Days Offensive began to push them back in August 1918.

That 1,200 square miles is roughly what the Russians took from Ukraine in 2024, out of Ukraine's 233,000 total square miles.

Regardless, God bless Pres. Trump for trying to bring peace to Ukraine.
Let's pray he succeeds.

But claims that Ukraine is on the brink of defeat are simply not supported by facts in evidence.
What the facts do support are suggestions that Russia's military is suffering at least as much and, indeed, far more than Ukrainians.

The best estimates I've seen put Russian military deaths overall at three-to-one over Ukrainians, and total casualties at around two-to-one -- meaning more Russian wounded die than Ukrainians.

So also, Russia's economy, on which its war efforts depend, is teetering on the verge of collapse.

Claims that Russians have made steady "progress" are just nonsense since, at a cost of hundreds of Russian casualties per square mile, they've net gained several hundred square miles since the summer of 2022 -- out of Ukraine's 233,000 total square miles of territory.

16 posted on 02/25/2025 8:47:54 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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Williams: "The real take away is that democrats disastrously play politics with foreign policy.
They get a LOT of people killed, turn whole regions over to our enemies, and they sleep fine at night because they are scumbags.
A short list of their disasters: Afghanistan, Iran, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Ukraine, Brazil, Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia.
If they’d been in power we’d still have the Soviet Union."

I agree with every word, except I think you are being far too kind and generous in your evaluation of our Democrats.

17 posted on 02/25/2025 8:51:36 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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lol. Talk about “sewer propaganda “

Hey kettle, this is pot - you’re black!


18 posted on 02/25/2025 10:11:29 AM PST by PGR88
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PGR88: "lol. Talk about “sewer propaganda “
Hey kettle, this is pot - you’re black!"

FRiend, if you can't tell the difference between Russian propaganda and actual facts, then you are not just besotted on Russian Kool-Aid, you're addicted to it.

19 posted on 02/26/2025 3:04:06 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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Thanks. The entire Sachs talk is worth listening to.


20 posted on 02/26/2025 3:50:31 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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