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Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?
Thread Reader ^ | Jan 2 , 2025 | Green Beret Nap Time

Posted on 01/04/2025 6:19:47 AM PST by george76

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To: miliantnutcase

Cybertruck contained the explosion and directed the blast upwards.

Not even the glass doors of the lobby were broken .. Cybertruck’s bed and the tires did not deflate, the exterior of the truck is intact, the bed door is still attached

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101 posted on 01/04/2025 8:10:21 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: bert
My first impression was that the man was sending a message to both President Trump and Elon Musk.

Right on both counts, IMHO.

102 posted on 01/04/2025 8:10:57 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: butterdezillion

“It sure would be nice if we could trust law enforcement and/or government agencies.”

It would be, and this is the crux of the issue. Since there are no LEOs that can be trusted, people have to try to figure it out themselves. With varying success.

Same thing happened during COVID when all the doctors went retarded all of a sudden. People had to start figuring out medicine to determine the best COAs for themselves and their families. With varying success.

During both events, people stood on the sidelines and jeered at the folks making the required effort.


103 posted on 01/04/2025 8:11:36 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: redfreedom

“So was the guy dead before the truck was parked there? That is driven by someone else, the corpse moved to the driver’s position and then the so called bomb set off?”

It is self driving. It can be commandeered or hacked and driven and detonated from a remote location by a third party computer operator. No “live” driver needed.


104 posted on 01/04/2025 8:13:26 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: cgbg

I hope and pray that our society as a whole realizes that until genuine justice is done - not “payback” but genuine justice - we have no law enforcement that can be trusted.

The people who make light of what’s been done by the Deep State, especially in the last 20 years or so (although actually probably before that also, to include the assassination of President Kennedy), can’t actually believe that we NEED credible law enforcement, because if they believed that they would know that we have to fight to get that credibility back.

We CAN’T be “unhindered by the past” until we get to the bottom of what really happened, exact justice, and make changes to insure that it can never happen again. That is the only way we can restore credibility and move forward.

As you suggest, that may only be possible by getting rid of the agencies that have screwed the whole country and starting over - maybe using the new product to prosecute the old.


105 posted on 01/04/2025 8:15:40 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I have no idea.

I agree with you. I wish the people who ruled over us had any sense of allegiance to us.


106 posted on 01/04/2025 8:17:42 AM PST by nitzy (Everything makes sense once you realize that we don't rule over ourselves and our rulers hate us.)
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To: nitzy

1) Ok, maybe bring your drivers license if you’re going to Mexico. You most certainly don’t want Mexican cartels to know you’re military and a high rank. Why Mexico? He’d blend in more in Canada or how about flying to a nonextradition country if he was afraid of getting charged with whatever happened in Afghanistan?

2) Elon likely just got a big boost in sales.

3) They’re saying his and his daughter’s DNA don’t match. Let the conspiracies begin - oh, he was upset the baby daddy is someone else or he is still alive and it is someone else’s body and who shot the body, blah, blah. The question is why do “they” need to know the baby’s DNA? Doesn’t the military have his DNA already and would only need to compare their records with the body? Or grab his toothbrush, razor and comb from his house to compare? Other than to create a story, a lie, why involve the baby?

4) Nowhere in the emails did he specifically state why he was doing this and why the fireworks. Ok, so he didn’t want to hurt anyone but still why fireworks? If he shot the body, then he did hurt someone. Yeah, unless this was staged by the you know who.

5) Was this for theater like him staring in a military reality show a few years ago? Nutso.

6) Why didn’t he clean up all the boom creating supplies in his house before leaving? And why was that reporter gal contaminating everything in the house and why wasn’t the door repaired and locked by LE, the landlord, his family or friends? Like how would LE know they wouldn’t need to go back to the house for more evidence? Sounds like the Idaho 4 house that just had to be bulldozed so the jury can’t ask to have a field trip.

7) Maybe I missed it but does he not live with this wife/gf and baby because there doesn’t appear to be a female or baby living there. Surely, the wife/gf would have been in the house to bring over the baby and seen he was making explosives. He was texting her he had rented the car and how cool and fast it was so what reason did he give for renting it? What else does she know?

8) What was with the Koran prominently displayed and opened and what was it open to? If there was a Koran then why a Bible? Sort of a conflict. What religion was he?

9) If you’re being followed then why let them know your every step for days? He was on security cameras getting the car charged.


107 posted on 01/04/2025 8:18:13 AM PST by bgill
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To: 9YearLurker
Trump apparently didn’t pick the mothers of his children for their brains. Apparently there’s more hope for Baron.

I can share that view.

108 posted on 01/04/2025 8:20:27 AM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Sarcazmo

Exactly.

I don’t know which has to come first: the waking up of the public to see what’s been done to them, or the prosecution of those who did it to them. It’s a which comes first the chicken or the egg type of issue when you have a representative form of govt, because the squishes in DC are blackmailed/owned by the Deep State that has done all these crimes against the Constitution, against first-world evidentiary standards, and against we the people. Will they allow their blackmailers to be exposed and prosecuted? Will the brainwashed masses realize what has happened BEFORE the trials laying out all the evidence and subjected to cross-examination?

We are in such a mess.

And the “normies” are still trying to call thinking people names for realizing that we’re literally on our own now.


109 posted on 01/04/2025 8:21:44 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: george76
as he was deceased

Are we absolutely 100% sure about this? What is the scuttlebutt from Group One?

110 posted on 01/04/2025 8:23:21 AM PST by Jemian ( Buy American. Employ Americans)
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To: mmichaels1970

Slightly off topic, I don’t know what a “crap mental health system” is supposed to do as there is no cure for insanity. More talk therapy? Certain meds? Shock therapy? Cognitive behavioral? What cures a crazy man? And if we ever discovered it how do we make him comply with the treatment?


111 posted on 01/04/2025 8:25:26 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: mmichaels1970
a vet with untreated PTSD lost his mind.

Talk to members of First Group out of JBLM. What is their thinking?

112 posted on 01/04/2025 8:25:49 AM PST by Jemian ( Buy American. Employ Americans)
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To: cgbg

1) Blowing the whistle and all the cloak and dagger yet he never spelled out the exact why he ruined a perfectly good car and ended himself or put a bullet through some other guy in the driver’s seat.

2) If he was that scared of whomever, why didn’t he first put his wife/gf and baby somewhere safe? The bad guys always go after those you love to make you suffer.

3) Doubt anyone wants military crimes brought up so “they” weren’t after him over that.


113 posted on 01/04/2025 8:27:17 AM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

How would an active duty GB have enough money to pay for a cybertruck? I know they’re paid well, but cybertruck well? I don’t think so.


114 posted on 01/04/2025 8:29:34 AM PST by Jemian ( Buy American. Employ Americans)
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To: Jane Long

And I respect that in the biggest way


115 posted on 01/04/2025 8:33:34 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: butterdezillion

” literally on our own now.”

Boy, is that the truth...


116 posted on 01/04/2025 8:36:54 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: lee martell

Doesn’t the military have his DNA on file? Why involve the baby? They had everything in his house to collect his DNA from. You know, that house they left wide open for everyone and their dog or reporters to contaminate. Remember the same thing happened in 2015 with the San Bernardino health dept. jihad massacre. Everyone and their cousin’s hairdresser tramped through that house 2 days later. Sort of like the Idaho 4 house just had to be bulldozed so the jury won’t be able to take field trip.


117 posted on 01/04/2025 8:37:18 AM PST by bgill
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To: Omnivore-Dan

He did not want to destroy the hotel.. just to send a message. -imo


118 posted on 01/04/2025 8:39:11 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: bgill

1.) Not sure where you are going with this.
2.) I doubt it.
3.) I 100% agree with you. I think they were just trying to make him look crazy.
4.) It does say why he has the car loaded up with explosives. It was to keep the people he thought were chasing him from confronting him. In the emails he says that the people chasing him knew that he is in a “VBIED”
5.) Maybe. Maybe Not. If being on a reality show negated everything that you do in the future.....what about Trump?
6.) I think you are mixing up your events
7.) Again...I think you are mixing up your events
8.) Again...I think you are mixing up your events
9.) Per the emails, he thought that the fact he was in a VBIED meant he was safe from them confronting him.


119 posted on 01/04/2025 8:41:46 AM PST by nitzy (Everything makes sense once you realize that we don't rule over ourselves and our rulers hate us.)
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bfl


120 posted on 01/04/2025 8:48:02 AM PST by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31 )
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