Posted on 12/22/2024 9:18:06 AM PST by grundle
Independent readers become independent thinkers.
Can’t have that.
How about spelling and grammar?
In 1999my daughter was diagnosed with a special ed need. She was unable to process words using the “sight” method.
They set up a special program to go to a special class. They started teaching her phonics.
It was crazy. It cost our town thousands of dollars from their special ed budget.
Because Teachers' College is still stuck on John Dewey. His Lincoln School taught John D. Rockefeller's sons and turned four out of five into dyslexics.
I try, but he figits and whines so much and doesn't pay attention.
Keeps wanting to get home to his wife and kids.
Score low on the teachers exam and get placed into lower grades; meaning, the dumbest, who are often illiterate themselves, teach reading.
Because they don’t want the students to read better than the teachers.
Studying Russian in college illustrated the importance of phonics. In Cyrillic, almost every new word is roughed out by a phonic translation of every syllable. We don’t notice it in English as much because we’re not fighting another alphabet as we are with
Cyrillic.
This is the important part - once we learn this word, even a complicated multisyllabic word, we remember and identify it on sight! To me this clearly illustrates the process of reading.
My brother begrudgingly taught me a few words from a handwritten letter or something when I was 4 or 5. I don’t think it’s a false memory, but I remember using this ‘code’ to break more words into my reading vocabulary, and with the help of a big nature book was reading fine well before school. Interestingly, I still mispronounce words in my head the same way when first learned. For instance, the ‘lbs’ on a big cereal box was ‘ibs’ in my head. Still is.
They don't need to teach phonics if you ax me.
They don’t teach it because it’s the easiest and beast way to teach reading. It stays with you your whole life and as a result reading is a joy.
This is the important part - once we learn this word, even a complicated multisyllabic word, we remember and identify it on sight! To me this clearly illustrates the process of reading.
But our small minds can’t handle complex systems. We want to think one or the other. Life is simpler that way.
Coke is better than Pepsi.
Ford is better than Chevy. Republicans are better than democrats. we don’t have to think anymore.
The only solid way to learn to sound out words & read.
Oh, yeah. I remember that from fifth and sixth grades.
“Russian”
Vowels, most radically the “O”, can have different sounds in Russian.
Phonics is the initial learning method for reading.
Spanish is fully phonetic - each letter has only one sound.
English and Russian are not.
“This is the important part - once we learn this word, even a complicated multisyllabic word, we remember and identify it on sight! To me this clearly illustrates the process of reading.”
Yes, that’s what’s needed to learn Russian (and English).
Most children don’t need to be taught phonics by public schools. However, probably about a third do, and it should be done in kindergarten (or pre-school).
1st grade for me.
Quickly moved into the 2nd grade SRA series
I know several people who work extensively with a tablet and a stylus. The software converts their handwriting to text.
I also work with technical professionals who mark up engineering diagrams. The markups have to be handwritten to valid changes to scope as well as determine liability. The project managers and the audit teams can go back through each revision and confirm exactly what was identified at what stage of the project.
“ I seriously believe that the reason they don’t teach phonics is because phonics works. They don’t want a society of readers. People might actually have ideas. This is all about control.”
And that’s why by the dept of education must be shut down.
Hopefully, phonics will come back under Trump!
And Harvard, Yale, MIT, Stanford, etc. will go back to reading whole books, even if one does not major in “History and Literature”!
Because Ebonics?
A better question would be why have so many public schools stopped TEACHING?
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