Grandma! No!
Posted on 12/11/2024 7:12:00 AM PST by Red Badger
In the 1995 film version of Jane Austen’s Sense and Sensibility, the noble Col. Brandon refers to Mr. Willoughby as “the worst of libertines,” a word not much used today but common in Austen’s time. A libertine was an unrestrained, sensual person who put his own desires ahead of what was decent and acceptable. A libertine flouted moral principles, and his conduct (and there were female libertines as well) was condemned as immoral by all right-thinking persons.
Today, there is less moral consensus regarding personal behavior, and this loss is reflected in every aspect of our culture. Many don’t know what to think, or withhold judgment because it is not “cool” to judge, about matters like adultery, promiscuity, drug and alcohol abuse, and other irresponsible behaviors. The attitude is “look the other way” or else “it’s a personal matter,” not for society to judge.
Few of us wish to return to the rigid Victorian morality of the past, where the mere suggestion of wrongdoing was enough to exclude someone from society (as seems to be happening to Pete Hegseth, with the charges brought to light just at the moment he was nominated for secretary of Defense). Those of us who grew up in the 1950s may recall the climate of fear that accompanied every meeting with members of the opposite sex and even how we dressed or wore our hair. Those social mores went far beyond what was moral or good: they derived from a collective psychosis focused on body and appearance and bore little relation to what was truly good.
But today, partly in reaction against Victorianism evident in generations of writers and thinkers (Henry Miller, Gore Vidal, and Simone de Beauvoir come to mind), the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction...
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Libertine is near the same as calling someone a Hedonist which is another term not often used today unless in print.
Rarely in active speech.
“Those of us who grew up in the 1950s may recall the climate of fear that accompanied every meeting with members of the opposite sex and even how we dressed or wore our hair. Those social mores went far beyond what was moral or good: they derived from a collective psychosis focused on body and appearance and bore little relation to what was truly good.”
Who is this freak? What is described is going on today, yesterday and tomorrow. The 50’s were much better, shame is a necessary component of a good and MORAL life.
Roger Stone describes himself as a LIBERTINE. They are all part of the fruits and nutz group to me. Homosexuality is a lifestyle invented so men could have sex with others who wanted it daily or even hourly. Lesbianism, because women are afraid of men. THEY are the ones with Homo-phobia. They are afraid of Homo-Sapiens.
Next thing you know, you’ll have scarlet women! And then ya got trouble…
with a capital T, that rhymes with P and that stands for pool
Not till Ragtime (shameless music!)...
Exactly correct. That is also why they insist on being called "gay", instead of what they are: Homo - sexual.
I’ve been calling the Libertarian Party the Libertine Party for years now.
BTTT
Grandma! No!
That reminds me, I need to get my watch fixed.
I can’t disagree with your assessment of the Party, however, libertarian ideals do not support where the Party has gone.
Radical indvidualism was also supposed to carry the connotation of that same individual being 100% RESPONSIBLE for the outcomes of their own decisions.
Period. Full stop.
Libertinism is the attempt to shield the individual from the consequences of their actions and that I cannot support.
The libertarian party never changed, they have the same positions they started with a half century ago.
Actually as has been well established, you either know nothing about their party or you insist on constantly lying about them, it seems that you just want to lie and deceive about them which is why you didn’t describe how different their positions are today than what they have been in the past.
libertarianism hasn’t changed, but the Party has changed for the worse...
Your agitprop you spew about this are kind of your schtick...
Read the post again, the party hasn’t changed.
You don’t seem to know much if anything about the party, but what issues do you think they changed their position on?
This is a lie. This is not the Party of Harry Browne any more. They have updated the political position statements over the decades to a point where they are Socialist Democrat-lite and absent any of the radical individual freedom parts they used to emphasize.
Especially with Chase getting the nod for their Prez pick.
We've done this dance before. You will never acknowledge anything presented. I will not respond further on this thread. You are not worth the time.
Why won’t you point out those platform issues they reversed or changed rather than just falsely claiming the party changed those positions?
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