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Far-Right Suggests Military Just Authorized Lethal Force Against Americans Ahead of the Election. It Didn’t.
The Warhorse ^ | October 23, 2024 | Sonner Kehrt

Posted on 10/26/2024 6:57:04 AM PDT by Eli Kopter

Just as former president Donald Trump told Fox News last week that he wanted to use the U.S. military to “handle” what he called the “enemy from within” on Election Day, an obscure military policy was beginning to make the rounds on social media platforms favored by the far right.

The focus? Department of Defense Directive 5240.01.

The 22-page document governs military intelligence activities and is among more than a thousand different policies that outline Defense Department procedures.

The Pentagon updated it at the end of September. Although military policies are routinely updated and reissued, the timing of this one—just six weeks before the election and the same day Hurricane Helene slammed into the Southeast—struck right-wing misinformation merchants as suspicious.

They latched onto a new reference in the updated directive—“lethal force”—and soon were falsely claiming that the change means Kamala Harris had authorized the military to kill civilians if there is unrest after the election.

That’s flat-out not true, the Pentagon and experts on military policy told The War Horse.

“The provisions in [the directive] are not new, and do not authorize the Secretary of Defense to use lethal force against U.S. citizens, contrary to rumors and rhetoric circulating on social media,” Sue Gough, a Department of Defense spokesperson, said Wednesday night.

(Excerpt) Read more at thewarhorse.org ...


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A rogue DOJ can take any of the laws and either twist them or disregard them. They have proven that since Obama came into office (and accelerated under Biden-Harris). It is possible that they can take this new rule and use it if Harris does not certify a Trump victory. Is that the plan? Trump wins and Harris refuses to certify, and then a false flag operation begins in Washington D.C. and the Military is invoked. She could declare Martial Law and Biden would remain President for as long as they like (or invoke the 25th Amendment on Biden and assume leadership as a 'caretaker government').
1 posted on 10/26/2024 6:57:04 AM PDT by Eli Kopter
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To: Eli Kopter

Multiple ironies here.

One, I basically made this point last week.

Two, the media has ignored this completely.

Three, the harris sycophants - and she herself - claim DJT will do the same himself.

...and the game continues...10 days and some 12 hours or so and counting...


2 posted on 10/26/2024 7:03:44 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Eli Kopter

Too stupid to read and understand the PDF right out of the warhorse’s mouth...

https://www.esd.whs.mil/portals/54/documents/dd/issuances/dodd/524001p.pdf


3 posted on 10/26/2024 7:04:59 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Eli Kopter

“That’s flat-out not true, the Pentagon and experts on military policy told The War Horse.”

Well you can’t argue with that, clearly the claims are “misinformation.” I am so tired of that term being thrown around because the left can’t win an actual argument.


4 posted on 10/26/2024 7:07:42 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Eli Kopter

Well, if they say so...


5 posted on 10/26/2024 7:08:12 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Eli Kopter

Who is the “far-right?” They use this term like it means something. Is it just some unnamed nut case? If so, who cares what he thinks?


6 posted on 10/26/2024 7:09:45 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Eli Kopter

You didn’t get your copy of ‘Project 2025’? Its right in there. Just like abortion is in the Bill of Rights. The failed opponent’s ads are getting more and more inciteful by the day. And carville’s comment about slitting throats. Stand by for unrest.


7 posted on 10/26/2024 7:11:06 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: Openurmind

It is hilarious what they are saying.

Read that document the other day.

Section 3.4 spells it out:

c. The approval authority will consider these factors:
(1) Lethality.
The extent to which the assistance to be provided involves the potential use of lethal
force.

Maybe the flack chick could expand on precisely how Sec. 3.4.c.(1) is not about lethality, even though it expressly mentions it.


8 posted on 10/26/2024 7:12:17 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: rktman

In reference to the failed opponent claiming PDJT will do this. Oh, and the FEMA camp thing again as well.


9 posted on 10/26/2024 7:13:16 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: Eli Kopter

This piece certainly didn’t leave any of the propaganda buzzwords out.

I guess this is what I would say if caught too. They probably hoped no one would notice when they slid this one in. Now they have to say something.


10 posted on 10/26/2024 7:15:10 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: Regulator

Maybe the flack chick could expand on precisely how Sec. 3.4.c.(1) of Biden/Harris’
Dept of Defense Directive 5240.01.is not about lethality, while expressly mentioning it.


Section 3.4 at c. spells it out succinctly:

c. The approval authority will consider these factors:
(1) Lethality.——The extent to which assistance to be
provided involves the potential use of lethal force.


11 posted on 10/26/2024 7:18:59 AM PDT by Liz (Faith is believing what you cannot see; its reward is to see what you believe. St Augustine)
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To: Regulator

I agree with you. But this administration has proven a disregard for the rule of law, so they can justify about anything. I wondered (out loud) if they might deny election results they don’t agree with and use something like this to essentially destroy the Constitution and Republic. The left does not like being a Republic.


12 posted on 10/26/2024 7:19:07 AM PDT by Eli Kopter
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To: Eli Kopter

Anyone think they’re going to use this to remove all the human debris that FU Biden, BJ Harris, et al. allowed to cross into the USA illegally. You know the gangs, pedos, mental cases, etc.?


13 posted on 10/26/2024 7:21:58 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Eli Kopter

“...That’s flat-out not true, the Pentagon and experts on military policy told The War Horse...”

Who the H*LL is The War Horse and why would the Pentagon and “experts” jump to respond to them?????


14 posted on 10/26/2024 7:23:15 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Eli Kopter

“...That’s flat-out not true, the Pentagon and experts on military policy told The War Horse...”

Who the H*LL is The War Horse and why would the Pentagon and “experts” jump to respond to them?????


15 posted on 10/26/2024 7:23:15 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Brilliant

‘far right “ = not commie trash.

That is all that this has ever meant. “You don’t agree with me, so you are not just wrong, but bad.”


16 posted on 10/26/2024 7:25:08 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: Openurmind
Seems you are correct and I only skimmed. It says force must follow protocols Dodd 5210.56. Said force can be used agonst international and civilian groups. Here is the particular page on deadly force. Says targets killed must pose a threat but get this TARGETS DONT HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE ARMED, THEY CAN JUST BE IN THE PROXIMITY OF DEADLY WEAPONS AND POSE A THREAT SUCH AS SITTING NEXT TO A RIFLE OR RUNNING TO A RIFLE. (My wording). Sounds like some leeway is given which of course allows them freedom of action. IMG-0187
17 posted on 10/26/2024 7:25:55 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: Regulator

Even worse, the whole document authorizes military policing within our borders. It completely negates Posse Comitatus.


18 posted on 10/26/2024 7:28:41 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Eli Kopter

If the DOJ doesn’t anticipate that lethal force against civilians might be necessary then why even include the language in the same subsections dealing with potential unrest/threats, among them being civilians? I’m not gonna sit here and pooh-pooh the revision/update because there aren’t some things in it that lead one to want a formal in-depth discussion about what it means.


19 posted on 10/26/2024 7:30:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Yogafist

It’s not the Pentagon or the experts on military who are the controlling legal authority here. It’s Congress and the President.


20 posted on 10/26/2024 7:31:12 AM PDT by Gaffer
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