Posted on 08/21/2024 4:32:37 AM PDT by iontheball
(NewsNation) — Former Pentagon insider Luis Elizondo says the Department of Defense has a spacecraft crash retrieval program and has recovered nonhuman specimens.
In a NewsNation special, Elizondo reveals more than any Pentagon official has done before, naming the government agencies and aerospace companies he says possess these alleged spacecraft.
Tune into the full NewsNation Special Report “Confessions of a UFO Hunter” Friday 9/8c followed by a special edition of Banfield reacting to the special at 10/9c. Not sure how to find NewsNation on your TV? Find your channel here.
Elizondo told NewsNation’s Ross Coulthart that the U.S. government recovered one of two unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) during Roswell 1947.
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Though this tale is probably apocryphal, I am reminded of how the Aztecs were reportedly fascinated by the unfamiliar ships, armor, and horses of Cortés’ forces—not focusing on the ‘imminent’ danger they posed (that they were about to be annihilated, raped, and pillaged).
Similarly, our current fascination with tic-tacs and other UFOs seems to blind us to the real threat these phenomena might represent.
Lue’s book is just more chatter about ships, armor, and horses. Makes one wonder why he chose the title “Imminent.”
We need to focus on “Somber.” We need to focus on “Imminent.”
I don't blame him for his book being a rehash. He did all he could.
You probably already follow him on X, but if you don't, here's his homepage:
Fair point on Lu overpromising.
I didn’t believe he could or would deliver anyway—so maybe that is why I was not disappointed.
He admits that he entered the field as a “newbie” and had to learn on the fly. If he had read all the literature the Collins Elite and the Legacy Group resistance would not have surprised him.
Imho Lu still has a lot to learn—a lot he does not yet know.
Montalk answers the “big picture” questions—but as you say he cannot “prove” he is correct.
I think Montalk’s analysis is a very solid “estimate of the situation”—and it is based on an in depth understanding of the UFO and occult literature—both modern and ancient.
As with any such estimate it should be subject to change based on new conflicting data.
I don’t think Lu is up to speed on Montalk or the Secret Space Program—if he got there he might be asking different questions and breaking new ground.
This post is about the “Collins Elite” since we have mentioned them briefly but not discussed them in depth.
The book that broke new ground on this subject (and was mostly ignored at the time) was this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Events-Secret-Government-Demonic-Afterlife/dp/1938398114
Montalk argues that the Collins Elite got a lot correct—but also made some errors.
The Collins Elite correctly perceived that much of the alien behavior fits the pattern of demons—and they are dangerous to humanity and its future.
They believed that “disclosure” and “open contact” would speed up this negative influence on humanity.
While this second view is more debatable it should not be dismissed too quickly—it is a reasonable position to hold and is worthy of discussion. The problem is that once you discuss it publicly you are on the way to disclosure whether you want to be or not.
One problem with the Collins Elite view is that secrecy gives the aliens more “running room” to influence human culture to their liking without any accountability.
The deep question is “What will humans do with this disclosure information.”
That is an unknown—it could be great or terrible or anywhere in between.
The Collins Elite view is summarized as follows:
“Why take a chance?”
(Montalk also argues that the Collins elite made a “category error”—and alien behavior is different from demons—and Montalk spends a lot of time explaining how they are different though they may appear similar. The bottom line is that no matter what happens with aliens the demons will always be with us—they are symbiotic with us—no practical way to get rid of them in this reality.)
As a Christian myself, I know Christians who say we shouldn't get even remotely involved with this kind of stuff. But I always remind them that Sun Tzu was correct in that you cannot win a war unless you know your enemy. I remind them that the Bible agrees with Sun Tzu in this regard and tells us that we must be aware of the wiles of the enemy.
That said, though the Bible is a powerful and ancient book, many Christians are like people everywhere...they are not keen on using their noggins when they study it (see tagline).
BTW, if you have a link to a video of Montalk and the demonic aspect of so-called aliens, I would like to watch it.
What I can give you is a pdf of this book by Montalk:
https://montalk.net/files/fringeknowledgeWEB.pdf
His discussion of demons and comparing them to aliens begins in Chapter 8 “Higher Negative Forces”. Chapter 9 then focuses on aliens.
Thx. I’ll read it over the weekend.
Specimens are Italian astronauts.
I just finished that PDF (had to skim some of it). It was very interesting.
The discussion about “aliens” manipulating humanity, the idea of human/demon hybrids, and the concept of aliens as deceptive beings trying to control or enslave humanity definitely reminded me of how demons are portrayed in various religious traditions. This aligns with a lot of what we hear from the UFO community, but without any evidence or empirical examination, we’re back to speculating with untested and untestable hypotheses.
That said, I do find it intriguing to explore how these ancient texts and myths, like those from the Bible, Hinduism, or even Sumerian mythology, might align with the concept of beings influencing humanity. It’s a fascinating area of thought, but I believe it’s important to approach these topics with a critical mind and to differentiate between what’s speculative and what’s more grounded in reality.
Thanks again for sharing the PDF—very interesting.
Just one subtle point—Montalk’s view is that the bad aliens themselves may be manipulated/controlled by demons, just like bad humans.
That is why the “aliens are demons” claim by the Collins elite is an oversimplification even though it may be operationally useful.
As I noted in the post on the Collins elite they understand that even discussing the topic with folks like Lu is a form of disclosure—so there is no way they would want to sit him down and explain the details—even though they may well understand those details.
I'm just saying that, until we can test them empirically, we cannot be sure.
Understood—humans always have to act based on limited information that could be incorrect.
The Collins elite are acting based on the best information they have—and I suspect they know a lot.
One other link for this thread—you may have already seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8TqBrrqL4U
Joe Rogan did an excellent interview of David Grusch.
I feel bad for Grusch—his heart is in the right place but he has no clue what he is dealing with....he was honestly surprised that the Collins elite and the Legacy Programs went after him hammer and tong.
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