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Secret Service Failure Gets Even More Embarrassing, Let Tree Disrupt Them from Saving Trump: Report
Western Journal ^ | 17 July 2024 | Jack Davis

Posted on 07/18/2024 6:02:26 AM PDT by Sam77

Some Secret Service snipers put in place to protect former President Donald Trump during Saturday’s rally were positioned so that a tree may have screened Thomas Crooks from them as he rained bullets on Trump’s rally, according to a new report.

CBS said that based on lines of sight at the Butler, Pennsylvania, venue where the rally was held, a tree near the building where Crooks positioned himself may have screened him from one of two sniper teams who were positioned to respond to threats such as the one Crooks represented.

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1 posted on 07/18/2024 6:02:26 AM PDT by Sam77
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To: Sam77

Attempted damage control. Not buying it!


2 posted on 07/18/2024 6:04:42 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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To: Sam77

There is one simple response that I do not see anyone addressing. With all the back and forth about line of sight, slope of roof, should we take him out?, I have no orders, blah, blah, blah, how about this simple response? “We have a credible sighting of a possible shooter. Get the president out of there!”

To me, this seems like the proper response to all the civilian sightings. I mean what could it hurt if you pull the president out of there, and it turned out to be a false alarm? A lot better than what actually happened or what could have horribly happened.


3 posted on 07/18/2024 6:06:05 AM PDT by JohnEBoy (I voted for Trump to be my president, not my pastor.)
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To: Sam77

That settles it. Not only did they have to deal with the perils of a roof sloped at about 18 degrees, they also had trees in the way! Clearly an impossible task for the Secret Service!


4 posted on 07/18/2024 6:07:09 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: Sam77

They keep calling it a blind spot, since when does security identify the best sniper position and then simply say, yep, that is ideal place for a sniper to shoot from but it is hard to see from where I’m standing right now, so just ignore that position.


5 posted on 07/18/2024 6:09:16 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Sam77
Even so, I still can't think of a more fitting climax to the RNC convention than by showing at some point right before Pres. Trump's acceptance speech, a short ad by Vince Langman on X. It's narrated by Sylvester "Rocky" Stallone using Trump's assassination attempt video in the background. It's truly awesome. It starts like this: "Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't always sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place."
6 posted on 07/18/2024 6:09:24 AM PDT by batazoid (Plainclothes cop at Capital during Jan 6 riot...)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Fight in the shade, living in the shade, wake up
Amerika, it is all shade, get the democrats out.


7 posted on 07/18/2024 6:13:22 AM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count)
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To: Sam77

CBS said that based on lines of sight at the Butler, Pennsylvania, venue where the rally was held, a tree near the building where Crooks positioned himself may have screened him from one of two sniper teams

If that is true, an advance was done on that venue, knowing where the sniper/counter sniper teams would be posted. Meaning that Crooks was not alone.

Part of that job, especially with the Secret Service and protection details, employs experience snipers that inspect the venues. Their job is look for the proverbial “if I was a sniper, that’s where I would shoot from”. Then they figure out where the counter sniper team is positioned or advice that static security is posted before the event and stays until principal, in this case Pres Trump, is in an armored vehicle and driving away.

Could be planned in attempt to kill him.

Or just abject incompetence, laziness and indifference to do their job properly.

“We’re in the Pennsylvania country. Nothing going on here. Don’t worry about it”.

Pres Trump would be much safer surrounded by old school street cops and some legit SOF fellas, ie Delta types that are used to doing stuff low pro


8 posted on 07/18/2024 6:14:51 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Sam77

As soon as i turned the rally on i saw the perfect position for the SS to view almost the entire venue. A child could see it and would have positioned two SS agents there. That water tower loomed over almost the entire site. My first thought upon seeing that water tower was two poor guys had to haul all their equipment up there to observe. Nobody was up there. It is now a case of negligence and that is a crime!


9 posted on 07/18/2024 6:16:52 AM PDT by Plumberman27
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To: qaz123

SOF for sure! Navy Seals and Green Beret as well. And I’d bet that a lot of these guys would do it gratis.


10 posted on 07/18/2024 6:19:11 AM PDT by albie
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To: Sam77

And why is Cheatle being blocked from testifying to Congress, but goes on TV almost daily?


11 posted on 07/18/2024 6:23:59 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: Sam77

Failure? Or meticulously planned for the assassin to have cover while completing his task? No obstruction to field of fire, no bullet proof glass around President, no SS anywhere near roof, ladder conveniently placed, no communication to President, and the kid is able to lug around an AR-15 unnoticed…


12 posted on 07/18/2024 6:27:07 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: albie

I can assure you that SEALs, overall, are somewhat overrated.

When the GWOT kicked off, the Marine Corps hired retired LAPD SIS men to teach the infantry how to look for bad guys in crowds.

SF guys, the ones that were in CIF companies, a job similar to Delta missions, all day.

Contrary belief, movies, tv shows, some cops know what’s up, as good or better than anyone wearing multicam or digital cammies


13 posted on 07/18/2024 6:28:16 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Sam77

One of the first things I learned as a Second Lieutenant is that when you are defending, get out and walk the terrain.

Look at the terrain from your potential adversary’s point of view.

Adjust your defense to what you find.

Do they not teach this to the Secret Service?

I’ll bet they do, and that’s why this incident really stinks.

The bosses let it happen.


14 posted on 07/18/2024 6:29:12 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Sam77

The mechanics of being a sniper, and stopping a sniper, may be new to many readers. It is to me. However, the community has this down to a science. Assassination was encouraged by the press and other Democrats. The assassination was planned and enabled by people far more capable than the Thomas Crook.


15 posted on 07/18/2024 6:30:49 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Scarborough: "This is the Best Biden ever.")
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To: Sam77

Since they have already said there was supposed to be a local LEO team or at least officer on the roof (that did not show up for work), this tree thing is just more unintended consequence to poor management already demonstrated.


16 posted on 07/18/2024 6:33:52 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: foundedonpurpose

There were two sniper teams behind Trump. The team to Trump’s right is what we’ve all seen. The was another team to Trump’s left. That’s the team that took the punk out, not the team with a potential blocked line of sight. There are photos of the placement of the second team here:

https://x.com/paulhook_em/status/1813784250032005376?s=46&t=oXM3QUNDayEotvdo1W-zQA


17 posted on 07/18/2024 6:37:27 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Sam77

They couldn’t even get out of the area because they were BLOCKED IN!


18 posted on 07/18/2024 6:43:35 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: blueunicorn6

From my Infantry days, “take the high ground”.


19 posted on 07/18/2024 6:43:36 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: hardspunned

That’s the wrong link. What you posted is a picture of the shooter being androgynous. Is that confirmed to be him?

Any way can you post the where the other sniper team was? Thanks.


20 posted on 07/18/2024 6:47:21 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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