Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Did Trump’s Shooter Have Help?
Citizen Watch Report ^ | Michael

Posted on 07/17/2024 7:41:17 PM PDT by davikkm

Okay, so we are supposed to believe that a 20-year-old kid “who was turned away from his high school rifle club for being a ‘comically bad’ shot” and that had no military training whatsoever was able to pull this off all by himself?  We are being told that it was “a mistake” that the ideal location for a sniper to be located was left unguarded, and somehow Thomas Matthew Crooks was able to identify this oversight and position himself accordingly.  Just 150 yards away from where Donald Trump would be speaking, Crooks was able to climb on to a roof with a rifle and stay there for nearly half an hour before he finally started shooting at Trump.  Either this was a cataclysmic security failure, or Crooks had some help somewhere along the way.

According to a former Secret Service agent who was in charge of Vice President Al Gore’s security detail during the Clinton administration, there should have been Secret Service personnel on that roof and “someone dropped the ball”…

Before a high-profile person like Trump attends an event and needs Secret Service protection, the agency conducts a security survey that also takes nearby buildings into account.

William Pickle, a former special agent in charge of the Secret Service’s vice presidential protection division who oversaw Vice President Al Gore’s detail, told USA Today that something was clearly missed. “We know who’s there, why they’re there, we have control over those buildings,” Pickle said. “It seems like somewhere in this security survey, someone dropped the ball on those particular buildings.”

Was this just a mistake, or was it done on purpose?

Former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino is claiming that an “unimpeachable source” has told him that someone was supposed to be on that roof but never showed up…

(Excerpt) Read more at citizenwatchreport.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; failedassassination; shooter; thomascrooks; thomasmatthewcrooks; trump
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-71 next last

1 posted on 07/17/2024 7:41:17 PM PDT by davikkm
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: davikkm

I heard today that the SS snipers that we have footage of shooting, were not the actual ones that hit the assassin!


2 posted on 07/17/2024 7:45:03 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

He did have a 2 year engineering degree. But if he did have help, it’s trail is probably on his phone


3 posted on 07/17/2024 7:45:13 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Celebrate Climate Change !!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TexasFreeper2009

I have a hunch that the message either spoken or unspoken to the SS security detail was “If you see or hear anything suspicious ignore or look the other way, just let it happen” That’s how the system under most dictators work, as the subordinates know very well without being told what to do and what is expected of them.


4 posted on 07/17/2024 7:50:01 PM PDT by Saintgermain ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

Does the pope love alter boys in an unapproved way?


5 posted on 07/17/2024 7:51:24 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

A shooter would have to know that by setting up there he was either going to be wounded or killed. He would have no way of escape.


6 posted on 07/17/2024 7:52:36 PM PDT by lurk (u)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

“Okay, so we are supposed to believe that a 20-year-old kid “who was turned away from his high school rifle club for being a ‘comically bad’ shot” and that had no military training whatsoever was able to pull this off all by himself?”

I don’t want to believe.

But you have to look at the facts.

Trump was safe and the SS was effective.

If he did not have the SS it could have been much worse.


7 posted on 07/17/2024 7:55:10 PM PDT by algore
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TexasFreeper2009

.
True, those rooftop Counter-snipers did not kill him.

Crooks got 8 shots off.


8 posted on 07/17/2024 7:57:19 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Impeachment Inquiry is necessary since Deep State is blocking )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

He had the help of law enforcement - SS FBI - up until he missed. He probably didn’t know that once he mad he shot he’d be killed.


9 posted on 07/17/2024 7:59:27 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TexasFreeper2009
I heard today that the SS snipers that we have footage of shooting, were not the actual ones that hit the assassin!

I can believe that. Those snipers we have seen on the rooftop had huge rifles, ones which I would expect to do far more damage to Crook’s head than what I saw. It seems more likely that Crooks was hit with a smaller caliber from a different shooter.

10 posted on 07/17/2024 8:00:25 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

The kid may have wanted to join the team, then set his mind to another, higher endeavor, of joining a more select group of individuals, men like John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, et al. Would have been unwise to put himself on a watch list by qualifying for the team. He did spend a good amount of time at the local rifle range, though.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-rally-gunman-identified/

The cops weren’t incompetent. They were just up against a smart kid. He got into Pitt Engineering (#45 nationwide). The average SAT score for Pitt Engineering is 1400.

https://i.imgur.com/Po3fbzy.png

Assuming he’s merely average among admits, that puts him in the 95th percentile.

https://www.appily.com/colleges/sat/1400

In other words, he’s smarter than most of the security entourage. It’s like getting a 97 on the ASVAB.

Wars are fought by men barely in their twenties. The would be assassin was a mere 20 years old and slim, hence with the agility to quickly get on that roof after it had been checked and after Trump started speaking. He probably expected to be spotted but though they were looking for him, he was using the slope for concealment until he had a line of sight on Trump. Whereupon Crooks shouldered his rifle, which was previously concealed below the slope, and had mere seconds as his head was skylined on the apex.

He was fearless because he must have known he’d be killed seconds after opening fire from such an exposed position. That gave him an edge over the security professionals who for all their training and equipment were ponderous and thinking of someone pre-placed and firing from inside a building (and hence with a exit plan). Crooks was all different, in there like a rat up a drainpipe and did it knowing he was going to die.


11 posted on 07/17/2024 8:01:22 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

There was one guy at the presser the day after they tried to kill Trump saying the perp was outside the perimeter????

Outside the perimeter? That perimeter is is anything within eyesight of The President and a bit beyond.

How in the Ho Lee Phuk is that possible?

I’ve been to Trump rallies and snipers are everywhere, including in the hills surrounding.

Security is actually visible for miles before you even get to a rally venue.

I felt safe, as well, unconcerned for The President’s safety

Moreover, there was a helicopter circling the event

The building 20 feet behind the dead dude is actually one story higher and begs the question “Why wasn’t a team on top of those buildings?” We know the answer.

Moreover, there is a 90 foot water directly to the east and overlooking all the buildings where dead was and he would have been easily seen if a team was on that water tower.

It is only 100yrds to the east. https://www.google.com/maps/place/615+Whitestown+Rd,+Meridian,+PA+16001/@40.8585856,-79.9698802,577m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x88337d9ebe29308f:0x1b4bca6251cd761e!8m2!3d40.8585186!4d-79.9699773!16s%2Fg%2F11ckqj_ky9?entry=ttu

No one on building to secure it.

No one overlooking to secure it.

So… a guy just decides to show up at a rally and take a potshot at PDJT… and he looks around for a spot that wasn’t covered by USSS and… well whadaya know! He’s in luck. A handy barn roof with no-one on it. And his rifle happens to be sighted in for the distance to the stage.

Now, let’s just see if he can get up there with a rifle without being spotted. Well whaddaya know! Another lucky break! Wait… he was spotted and pointed out to security, Well whaddaya know! Three times lucky! Security blew it off.

Oops. His luck ran out. He was shot deader’n a doornail. Tsk, tsk. Too bad. Can’t question him now.

Gonna be lots of stuff out there

Fact is “it should have never happened “

That it did is inexplicable and no answer will be acceptable

Snipers have an Area of Operation

In that AO are Squares that they are responsible for scanning hostiles and intelligence

Each Square also has math notes for distance, elevation, declination, etc

This was not a slipup


12 posted on 07/17/2024 8:02:02 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lurk

I still cannot get over the fact that Trump was allowed to continue while this guy with a rifle was on the roof.

No effort to protect Trump.

What is security for? What was their job?

I would presume they are compromised.

Unfortunately there is no accountability.


13 posted on 07/17/2024 8:03:06 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

Why was he sending / receiving encrypted messages with his phone during the time?

That’s obvious there was coordination.


14 posted on 07/17/2024 8:04:56 PM PDT by BereanBrain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: davikkm
"Okay, so we are supposed to believe that a 20-year-old kid “who was turned away from his high school rifle club for being a ‘comically bad’ shot” and that had no military training whatsoever was able to pull this off all by himself?"

Lee Harvey Oswald was 24. He barely qualified with his M-14 rifle in the USMC. His military training was as a radar operator. To this day, people still buy the official line that he acted alone and managed a headshot on a moving target with a ridiculously inaccurate Carcano. Dare to suggest otherwise and Warren Report fanboyz will become openly hostile toward you.

So to answer your question, yes. You are supposed to believe it.

15 posted on 07/17/2024 8:06:01 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

One thing about all this I’d like to know, is, has anyone matched the bullets from Woods rifle to the ones that killed and injured the spectators in the crowd?


16 posted on 07/17/2024 8:09:49 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: algore

Does anyone know exactly what rifle the kid used?

The news said it was his fathers so SS knows what it was. Early reports said it was a .22 I thought that might make sense if 10/22 but all the news keeps sayin AR assault rifle


17 posted on 07/17/2024 8:10:05 PM PDT by algore
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: TexasFreeper2009

The autopsy should be interesting.
Let’s see where the bullet entered and at what angle.


18 posted on 07/17/2024 8:11:17 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: AnthonySoprano

Where did those 8 shots go? Was it spray and pray?


19 posted on 07/17/2024 8:11:30 PM PDT by satan (The tree of liberty is dying in the drought.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: davikkm

Apparently, he didn’t need it. It’s just that easy with the Secret Service.


20 posted on 07/17/2024 8:15:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-71 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson