Posted on 07/15/2024 6:01:26 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/secret-service-faces-serious-questions-about-security-footprint-and-rooftop-access-at-trump-event/index.html
https://x.com/ywnreporter/status/1812648353169060042?s=46&t=oXM3QUNDayEotvdo1W-zQA
https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1812665335075483945?s=46&t=oXM3QUNDayEotvdo1W-zQA
https://fortune.com/2024/07/14/donald-trump-assassination-attempt-shooter-thomas-matthew-crooks-bomb-making-materials-vehicle-home/
https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-secret-service-agents-how-trump-assassin-could-fire-shots-2024-7
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/secret-service-faces-serious-questions-about-security-footprint-and-rooftop-access-at-trump-event/index.html
https://thelibertydaily.com/7-things-we-know-about-would-be-assassin/
I put these links in so people could access the story. The US Federal Government has made two claims that I feel are implausible. The first claim is that the shooter was 'acting' alone. That means, in less than 12 hours they have claimed to research every part of his life, his contacts, his past, where he has been, who he as been with, who he may have been speaking with on-line (including on xbox/game consoles), where he trained and were he got him ammunition. I find that implausible.
The second is even more serious. This is the statement, from multiple individuals with video, that the sniper was recognized minutes before. The first claim is that they didn't know falls out because of the video evidence. The second claim that they couldn't shoot until the sniper shot first is ludicrous. The third claim that they needed authority to shoot with someone with a rifle aimed at a POTUS is so stupid not to bother in conversation. The final 'it was local cop problem' makes zero sense because they outlined the building as a risk during walkthrough.
When you start to see the Government and the Media try to make things up as they go along, it's a cover-up. Plain and simple, something is wrong.
It was new to me, too. I thought it required sequencers the size of refrigerators and days to get results.
Report: Secret Service Snipers Instructed NOT to Fire Until AFTER Assassin Takes the First Shot
The Libertydaily ^ | 7/15/24 | Discern ReporterPosted on 7/15/2024, 10:58:33 AM by blueyon
RealClearPolitics White House and National Political Correspondent Susan Crabtree dropped an important report on the failure of the Secret Service to protect President Donald J. Trump and those around him during last week’s Pennsylvania rally.
According to Crabtree, the potential lack of drones and the “DEI” protocols at the Secret Service contributed to the failure, but the biggest reason Trump’s life was put in danger is because rules of engagement prohibit snipers from engaging until the assassin shoots first.
(Excerpt) Read more at thelibertydaily.com ..
This mornings video of security clearing a field of fire for the assassin just before the shooting needs the “Church Lady’s” how covenant meme.
can you provide link for the video?
I saw the same video. Crowd behind Trump on the ground were being cleared before the shots were fired.
More embarrassment for the U.S. Secret Service as probe deepens into Donald Trump kill bid. A new video of Secret Service agents at the Trump rally venue has emerged. The video shows secret service agents clearing the rows behind Trump’s stage. Moments after rows were cleared, the shooter opened fire & secret service agents were seen bending down. Many called the video proof of the Secret Service’s ‘involvement.’ The Trump assassination attempt was an insider job claimed by social media users.
https://youtu.be/vxrvrei_2ek?si=ZePd9CCltjWB-Af2
I agree
He pointed his gun at the cop
The cop ran
His superior says right move
Same cops who will put 20 rounds at 25 yards armed only with a knife or sometimes a cell phone
And it’s justified here and everywhere
This stinks
If I point my AR at a cop I expect and engagement
This thing collapsed on every front
Yet the media and most Leos crowing about “heroes”
Even me
On a tripod with perfect ammo like they have and exotic glass I nailing that kid in the eye pronto at that range
His whole fcking head would fill my glass at high mag
Is it possible elements in the Leos wanted him dead
And don’t get me started on fat SS split tails in the detail
Trump needs Erik Prince now
Donald
Sir
Now that you’ve been shot by whatever conspiracy
Release all the jfk stuff
Please
The cop probably was on the radio yelling that. We don’t know one way Or the other.
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Or the cop could have pulled his sidearm and pumped 3 rounds into the dirt, or whatever, to alert the Secret Service.
That’s the one.
It doesn’t make it a coverup, it makes it a normal, confusing, situation where there are literally thousands of sources.
There are lots of pieces of information that need to be collated and teased out to get the truth.
For example: We heard of the policeman going up the ladder to challenge the shooter. Then we hear that the person who went up that ladder was in civilian clothes and was unarmed.
Those are two very different takes on the same situation. But until we hear from that person, the stories will be confusing.
We heard of the people pointing towards the shooter crawling on the roof. But aside from jumping up and down and screaming, was there any direct contact with LEOs which was passed along to the Secret Service or State Police?
The story is good, but and the guy made good video…but suggesting that the Secret Service should have known because some people outside a big rally party we jumping around and waving loudly? There were a lot of folks out there being loud from what I could see. Consider them tailgating at a big football game.
I do not disagree that the initial problem of the building not being secured was the KEY failure. But there are a lot of assumptions about what people were doing or should have been doing that have to be sifted through and put into a timeline.
I can't recall where I read it because at my age (78) seem to sleep in only 2.5 hour increments. But I've been following the event closely.
Also recall that because he was in shorts he wasn't crazy about going up on a "hot metal roof" in shorts and no gloves.
So many spectators were yelling about the gunman's presence he felt compelled to investigate.
I was thinking that he also didn't want to be mistaken for a "bad guy" either, so there's that.
I do not disagree that the initial problem of the building not being secured was the KEY failure.
It’s more than a failure. It’s a should never have happened failure. Further, as soon as someone is on the roof of a building with a rifle, they should have been dead. Not after they shoot.
Something is very very wrong.
They have his van and searched the home.
They gave his van and searched the home.
I heard a guest on a local talk show talk about how different federal, state and local officers are weary of giving others their radio channels. They don’t trust each other and turf wars. Sick.
And he’s a former agent and now owns a defense business training clients on safety.
what has that got to do with id’ing him with DNA? My question was about the DNA ID aspect of this situation.
I don’t know the timeline of when they did the ID. Maybe they suspected who he was via other means but needed official confirmation.
All I know is that the FBI said he was IDed by DNA . he was not carrying a wallet. It didn’t take long for the leak of his name
Plenty DNA in the van and home. They just draw blood and test it against that.
They knew who he was before he went up on the roof. I am sure he wasn’t “hired’ to do the job but some “retired” FBI man talked to him maybe a couple of months or a couple of weeks ago, getting from his NSA/DHS profile that he was unstable with a repressed tendency to violence, suggested some things to him like how to make himself famous, maybe. Those “retired” or not so retired FBI/CIA fellows had contact with many of the school shooters over time prior to their actions.
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