Posted on 06/16/2024 2:12:11 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
Sen. Tim Scott appears determined to take himself out of the running to be Donald Trump’s vice-presidential pick.
In an interview on CNN’s State of the Union with host Jon Karl, Scott said he stood by his decision to certify the 2020 presidential election, despite widespread evidence of voter fraud that tipped the election in Biden’s favor.
Here is a transcript of the exchange:
JON KARL: OK. Senator, the day before that violent mob attacked the Capitol, you put out a statement explaining your decision to certify Joe Biden’s election victory.
Do you stand by that? You were not one of those that challenged the results. You voted to certify Biden’s election victory. Do you stand by that?
SCOTT: Certainly. I will stand by that decision
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KARL: All right, and very quickly, we’re just about out of time, but you had said that Mike Pence absolutely did the right thing when he defied Donald Trump’s demand to — to not certify that election. Do you still stand by that, that Pence absolutely did the right thing on January 6th?
SCOTT: The Constitution is clear. What we’re trying to focus on is how do we make sure we get four more years where the American people, particularly kids like me, growing up in poverty, have the best future we could possibly have.
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A few people tried, a little. Giuliani did the most, but gave up when he never even got paid for what he did. The cases then went cold, and mostly died. The PR campaign has been a moderate success, however, of completely convincing some voters that elections are rigged. Whether the number of those who are outraged will be enough to overcome possible cheating remains to be seen.
However it would have convinced a lot more people that cheating exists, had it been proven in court. Any court. Anywhere. They're not all 100% crooked, as you infer, and they're still better than us shooting at one another, which would lead to the end of the USA, and it being replaced by a totalitarian police state.
Pence must be privately heartbroken that he did not take a stand on Jan. 6; it ruined him politically.
Pence could have refused to count the certified electoral votes sent by the States, but had had done that, he (and likely Trump too) would have almost immediately been impeached by Congress, convicted of impeachment, and removed from office. He simply didn't have a legal leg to stand on, since all the supposed evidence of fraud had already been presented at the state level, which is where their electors are decided.
They went ahead and impeached Trump anyway, just for calling the protest, and clearly would have impeached them both if Pence had refused to count the certified electors from the states.
Only the complete and stupid buffoon needs any more evidence when there is prima facie evidence of fraud all over the place.
"Harvesting", with no chain of custody, *IS* vote fraud. That states were stupid enough to make it legal does not change the fact that you can dump fake ballots into such a system.
So were we cheated, or outsmarted?
As the old joke goes, "What do you mean "we" Kemosabe?"
Dumb Republicans were "outsmarted", but many of us said right up front that allowing non supervised ballot dumps is nothing but vote fraud.
And yes, we were cheated. That was entirely the point of doing it.
Ok, well feel free to keep putting together little documentaries, and websites, and ignore the courts all you want.
Why would any conservative have any respect for courts? They are both corrupt and dysfunctional, and if they every get anything right, it is an accident.
Most of the courts refused to hear any election fraud cases citing "standing", and then "laches." Just dodges to avoid dealing with real actual evidence.
To overturn an election, you'll have to go to court.
Biden didn't have to go to "court" to overturn the election. He only needed to cheat. And get it right. What everyone was doing was trying to *STOP* the election from being overturned through vote fraud.
"Overturn" is a liberal lie to de-legitimize the very real problem of stealing an election through ballot fraud and other means.
Don't use the enemy's premises or their language.
And our courts are the right way for disputes to resolved, they even tamed the Wild West, which we do not want to go back to.
The utter garbage courts we have now are a very different thing from the courts we used to have back then. We have childish little babies running the court system now. They not only can't tell the difference between morally and legally right, but wouldn't do anything different if they could.
They are incompetent and dysfunctional and heavily biased. They are idiots, and many of them need to be dragged off that pompous bench and get their @$$es beaten.
Arrogant little mouthy tyrants.
Yeah, there are the coward courts. We've got plenty of those too. Liars and cowards. That's what our court system looks like nowadays.
The only halfway decent judge on the entire 2024 scene is Judge Cannon in Florida, who is throwing monkey wrenches into Smith's trumped up documents case.
All the DC courts are corrupt, as are the New York courts. Merchan needs his arrogant bitch ass beaten to a bloody pulp. He and the prosecutor need to be sent to prison themselves.
..and they're still better than us shooting at one another,...
An assertion that becomes less credible with each passing affront to justice meted out by the corrupt courts.
which would lead to the end of the USA, and it being replaced by a totalitarian police state.
News for you buddy. That's what's happening right now. Mainly due to all the corrupt lying judges in the system.
I'm pondering how any of that could be considered a worse outcome.
Biden has done horrible things to this nation, and if he induces Iran to attack with the Nuclear weapons he allowed them to develop, this corrupt bastard may be responsible for the deaths of millions of people.
A war with Russia is on the table. A war with China is on the table. A war with Iran is on the table. None of this would have happened with Trump remaining as commander in chief.
Biden has literally set the world on fire with his corruption and incompetence, and compared to what could happen, I would have been happy to see the Democrat cesspool big cities go up in flames from a temper-tantrum.
And if they had hanged Pence for doing the right thing, I would at least still have some respect for the man. Now I just see him as a Quisling.
Well, good. It sounds like an obvious problem, that could lead to greater problems, like elections being stolen.
But, that is hardly proof of a stolen election. Just like leaving my door wide open at night might present a great opportunity for a crime, it doesn’t mean that it will result in one. Until you can identify an actual perpetrator, and the criminal means to commit the crime revealed, nothing can be prosecuted, etc.
Not to make light of the voter roll issue, but it’s certainly not something that’s worthy of throwing out our Constitutional processes governing elections, as some seem eager to do.
The constitution does not require the President of the Senate to be a clueless buffoon. It expects him to be an agent for it's legitimate purpose. Rubber stamping a fraud is not something anyone from the founding era would have done.
They expected men to have guts and honor to do the right thing. In the context of the era, refusing to go along with a clearly fraudulent outcome is exactly what the constitution would expect a President of the Senate to do. Pence should have tossed it to the House.
Unfortunately, you have no concrete proof of that, that has stood up in court. There may not be any, either, as the decision was made to wage a PR campaign, to fire up the emotions of emotional people like yourself. You’re so mad you can’t think clearly and face the fact that elections must be challenged in court, not on some website. And some emotional people like to stay mad, verses get the problem actually solved, anyway. So go vent at someone else, since you don’t even understand the nature of the problem you’re facing, Thanks.
It hasn’t been tested in court.
Standing was denied.
Over 300election officials across five swing states have raised the alarm regarding ballot irregularities and election integrity in their jurisdictions. Officials in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin have all cited instances raising concerns about voter registration practices, ballot counting, and chain of custody....
A Sampling of Recent Election Fraud Cases from Across the United States
1,513 Proven instances of voter fraud
1,284 Criminal convictions
58 Civil penalties
123 Diversion program
26 Judicial finding
22 Official finding
And do you know why that was? I do, because I was (and still) am following it closely. In order to have standing, you have to have suffered damages. As in, the past tense.
This is the way the law works, for better, or worse, but it is the law. And Trump and his attorneys were told that once the election vote count was officially complete, as in after the J6 electoral college vote, he would have at that point legally suffered damages, and could file all the lawsuits he wanted.
He clearly chose not to do that, even though he was donated $250M in the month of December 2020, alone, to “stop the steal.” But on January 7, he fired pretty much all his lawyers, including Giuliani who he never paid, and decided to wage a PR campaign on social media, instead of pursue actual remedies in the courts.
That may or may not have been the right choice, I guess we’ll see in November 2024. Hopefully he will win, far and away, or if he doesn’t ,and it appears he was cheated, he’ll be better prepared to legally contest it in the courts, and not just a call for a protest rally in D.C. and follow up social media campaign.
Great, hopefully something comes of it. However, that article was posted 15 hours ago, as in June 2024. Several years late, obviously. And probably too close to this election for any changes to take place in time.
Thanks for that link, which I’ve seen before. But there’s no big players on there, pretty much all small timers, a lot of them just trying to rig their local election for mayor or something similar. The number of people busted for election crimes for 2020 is really no different than the number of those busted around any election on the Presidential cycle.
*I* do not need proof of that. I am not the president of the Senate.
The only person that needs proof is the President of the Senate, and it can take whatever form he finds convincing.
Had *I* been President of the Senate, I would have made a very public announcement that the 2020 election was riddled with massive amounts of fraud, and *I* would not regard the electors sent by the fraudulent swing states as valid.
I would have tossed the election into the House of Representatives, where Trump would have won by a large margin.
You’re so mad you can’t think clearly and face the fact that elections must be challenged in court, not on some website.
We have seen over and over again how biased and unfair are the courts, especially the courts in Democrat controlled areas of the nation. (Like Atlanta, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Phoenix, for example.)
You have to be mad (as in insane) to believe that these corrupt, rotten, idiot governed, biased courts will do the right thing.
You are asking a Jew to expect fairness from a Nazi court, or a Negro to get a fair shake from a Klan court. The very idea is ridiculous.
These horrible people running these corrupt Democrat courts are *NOT* reasonable or rational or fair, and for the most part will not entertain any claims of election fraud no matter what the evidence is.
And some emotional people like to stay mad, verses get the problem actually solved, anyway.
I'm all for solving the problem. Let's start with an easy one. How do we get that corrupt, ridiculous verdict by Judge Merchan in New York tossed out?
How do we get that greasy bastard tossed in prison for abusing his authority?
Same with all the other faked up charges against Trump and others in Georgia, DC and Florida?
Our court system is broken. We have been seeing how broken it is for decades, and you have to be a fool to think it still works.
Derick Chauvin is in prison, isn't he?
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