Posted on 05/24/2024 9:42:37 AM PDT by Kazan
Long gone are the days when Ukraine was at least winning the war on the western news sites’ headlines.
Now, slowly but surely, the MSM has had to face the fact that the outmanned, outgunned and outmaneuvered Ukrainian forces will not win this war on the battlefield, will not get back to pre-war borders, much less reincorporate the Crimean peninsula.
And up until a minute ago, to state the obvious fact that Ukraine will have to cede territory during peace negotiations with Russia got you branded as a ‘Kremlin stooge’ or worse, and only the most courageous politicians, such as Hungarian Viktor Orbán, Slovak Robert Fico as well as American Donald Trump, dared utter these words.
But now, that exact same unavoidable fact has been splashed on ABC News, and voiced by a frontline leader from the Ukrainian army – someone who can’t be shaded as a ‘Vladimir Putin’s shill’.
We are talking about the leader of Ukraine’s 57th Motorized Brigade, an infantry unit battling the new Russian offensive North of Kharkov.
Colonel Oleksandr Bakulin was interviewed by ABC News in the presence of a ‘senior Army leader’ at a secret location.
I’m stressing this fact because I believe it shows that Bakulin has not ‘gone rogue’ in the surprising thing he said.
The situation in the Northern Kharkiv region is ‘quite difficult’, Bakulin says, but Ukrainians ‘managed to slow down the enemy’.
(Of course, as reinforcements for North, Kleesheva, Andreevka and other localities further south are falling prey to Russian advances – which was always Moscow’s plan.)
Furthermore, Bakulin said that the Russians still have reserves [in Belgorod near Kharkov] and are poised to bring these reserves into the battle when the time is ripe.
ABC News reported:
“’We do understand how crucial this [US] aid is’, Bakulin said. ‘The whole the world understands. Yes, our soldiers are brave and courageous, but without this aid, these weapons, shells, everything, without this we would not be able to keep fighting in a war against Russia, just because we are way smaller than Russia‘.”Bakulin called the Ukrainian army retreating ‘a normal part of the ebb and flow of warfare’. But he introduces the ‘novel’ idea that ‘Ukraine has already won’.
“Despite the advances made but the Russians, he pushed back at the idea that Ukraine is losing the war, saying, ‘I personally think that we have already won this war. The question is at what point it is going to end, and at what stage’.
Bakulin said he predicts that in the end this war will be ended by a deal, saying, ‘Every war ends in peace talks and deals’.”
This is unprecedented, and introduces the new narrative: by merely surviving the war, Ukraine wins.
But Bakulin wasn’t done: he accepted that territory will need to be given up during negotiations, citing the experience of nearby Finland.
“’Little Finland once fought against big USSR’, Bakulin said. ‘Yes, it lost some territories. But it still does exist as a country and Russia doesn’t even look in that direction. We are in a similar position, but I hope we will not lose our land’.”
Now, let me reming you that a ‘senior Army leader’ was present at the interview, showing that this line of narrative ‘Ukraine wins the war merely by surviving’, has authorization to be floated.
“The war is far from over and the lack of heavy weaponry is still operationally critical. He put it succinctly when asked about the casualties caused by the lack of armaments, saying ‘The sweat of the artillery soldiers saves the blood of the infantry soldiers. But if there is only sweat without the shells, then infantry soldiers pay it with their blood’.”
Bakulin’s interview it’s just a cope, but also introduces a new ‘objective’ that is actually perfectly obtainable.
Let’s see if this will become the new mantra: ‘Ukraine already won’.
Most likely “Final Result” of the Obama-Biden administration’s Ukrainian War against Russia?
A Korean War type stalemate and “permanent” cease-fire line on the current trenchlines. As soon as Putin is out of power. (By death, assassination, or old age.) But, also, Biden-Pelosi-Kerry-Romney sons must be kicked off of their positions on the corrept Ukranian oil and gas company’s board of directors.
Logical move. Russia could not rule over an angry Ukraine State. Best to take the areas where Russians live (and all the natural resources are). In time Russia and Ukraine can develop good relations and this past bit of unpleasantness will be forgotten. All wars come to an end and are consigned to the history books.
You said, "NATO would have to agree to this condition and NATO never will. Russia does not get a vote in who does or does not join NATO."
The US is the largest bag of money which funds NATO, so the US has a disproportionate control of who joins NATO.
In 2010, the Ukraine's "parliament passed a law banning Ukraine from joining any military bloc, effectively banning it from entering NATO though maintaining opportunities for cooperation. According to a poll conducted by Pew Research Center the fall before, just over half of Ukrainians disapproved of NATO and the idea Ukraine might try to join, while just 28% approved." source
ransomnote: Since the Ukraine moved to prevent NATO membership, the US CIA overthrew the Ukrainian government (start of that 'revolution' was February 18, 2014). With (CIA) help, NATO was now in control of the Ukraine, Russia responded by annexing part of Crimea Feb 20, 2014 – Mar 21, 2014 and in May, two more reagions of the Crimea voted for independence to escape the NATO controlled Ukraine, at which point Western Ukraine began shelling Eastern Ukraine in hopes of killing off ethnic Russians among its population and rebels who support Russia. Nobody likes to talk about Eastern Ukraine shelling western Ukraine.
Ukraine: Widespread Use of Cluster Munitions
Government Responsible for Cluster Attacks on Donetsk
(Berlin) – Ukrainian government forces used cluster munitions in populated areas in Donetsk city in early October 2014, Human Rights Watch said today. The use of cluster munitions in populated areas violates the laws of war due to the indiscriminate nature of the weapon and may amount to war crimes.
During a week-long investigation in eastern Ukraine, Human Rights Watch documented widespread use of cluster munitions in fighting between government forces and pro-Russian rebels in more than a dozen urban and rural locations. While it was not possible to conclusively determine responsibility for many of the attacks, the evidence points to Ukrainian government forces’ responsibility for several cluster munition attacks on Donetsk."
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions
” NATO would have to agree to this condition ..”
bullSchiff :
NATO does not get a vote on the surrender terms of your proxy
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Biden and Nuland won’t take the deal. But Trump will force the Gay/Actor/Ukie President to take the deal.
And yeah, I know Nuland resigned. She is responsible for this mess.
This is complete nonsense... Colonel’s don’t make decisions... Generals do.
Putin never intended to invade and occupy the Ukraine. It was a specific military operation. In several months it will likely be over.
For those that actually read Vlad’s speech on day one- return of the ethnic Russian provinces, which is now almost 98 percent complete, Ukie denazification ,and Ukie Neutrality- WILL be MEET….well, routing out the Ukro Nazis has not yet, but I am sure it will somehow be implemented.
Based on Vlad’s clearly spelled out objectives on day one, he will prevail (but I wouldn’t trust any deals with the West)…proven liars…. Remember the NATO promise “ not one step east?”….go Vlad, US forever wars must stop.
Those in those regions had every right to seek independence and join the Russian Federation. They did so. There isn't a thing that is going change that.
Also, by that illogic, the USA should return Hawaii to the descendants of Kamehameha.
Actually we should.
The only way colonels make decisions is after seizing power in a coup. See Gaddafi, the Greeks in the 1960s, etc.
Thank you for parroting the Official Narrative of the Russian Foreign Ministry. I’m sure Minister Lapdog is grateful for your service.
“Those in those regions had every right to seek independence and join the Russian Federation.”
You do understand how farcical this statement is, right?
None of that arguable.
Why on earth should the people in those regions remain part of Ukraine when the government that came to power persecuted them?
You don't care because all you want to go to war with Russia, proving once again what a threat you and people that think like you are to national and world security.
It’s what the left and a bunch of other idiots espouse these days.
“Why on earth should the people in those regions remain part of Ukraine when the government that came to power persecuted them?”
Those people who want to be part of Russia had every right in the world to go to Russia, an option I invite you to exercise as well.
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