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To: butterdezillion; discostu

She probably takes fault with my description of the Libertarian Party because its supporters deny its actual positions, I can back-up everything I have said about it, including the statement “refusing to take a stand against pedophilia party”.


161 posted on 04/07/2024 1:37:28 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

BWAHAHAHAHAHA You’re hilarious. “I know their actual position better than they do.” BWAHGAHAHA


163 posted on 04/07/2024 1:39:03 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: ansel12

I think it’s pretty clear that the conversation has strayed from constructive ways to activate the apathetic. We can say that one suggestion is that we all abandon the GOP and then the apathetic will suddenly believe that it is worth them to re-engage in the political process.

I’ve said I don’t think it would work, and even if it did the country would be destroyed in the meantime.

To me the suggestion is sort of like suggesting the way to resolve a hostage situation is just to kill the hostage and be done with it. I don’t buy that suggestion and I very strongly doubt that anybody serious would.

I recognize the argument that we’re all tired of the same old, same old. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insane. So we need to change whatever it is that is making our politicians rotten.

The 2-party system does cause some issues by itself because it is how powerful chair positions are decided. I don’t know if there’s any way to change that, even with adding another party. You still have somebody appointed to powerful positions and they’re going to use that to their advantage

There’s also the issue of the party war chest - money and support given by party leaders to get people re-elected. Murkowski comes to mind. That is starting to be less of an issue because actual R’s have gotten wise to it and give political donations directly to the candidate they support, although with the replacement of Ronna McDaniel as RNC Chair people may be donating more to the R party. It better not be Mitch McConnell who’s deciding how best to stiff the actual R voters though...

I believe that the Founders put together a system they believed would allow the PEOPLE to hold their government responsible - between elections but also through replacing whoever doesn’t represent them well.

We don’t have that any more, and I do believe that this is discouraging to the apathetic. There is a belief that nothing we do makes any difference anyway. There is no way to hold anybody accountable between elections, and even if we replace them via election whoever we send will just side with the cabal against us anyway.

I think the left probably recognizes that better and uses hot-button subjects to try to pull apathetic voters into their cabal using bribery topics like marijuana and abortion. Doesn’t matter if the Deep State kills us all, as long as we can have drugs and sex until we’re dead. People aren’t apathetic about drugs and sex.

Some have said that the situation with the illegal immigrants overrunning our country could be a good “felt need” issue. When people lose their jobs to illegals or can’t get jobs because they’re already taken, people may get angry enough to snap out of their apathy.

Maybe a good thing would be to identify the issues that will snap people out of their apathy.

I have no idea what normies think any more. I hope somebody can buy me a clue.

I also think what was said earlier is critical: we HAVE to stop the steal. I’m hoping somebody will offer more ideas, brainstorming, and information about that.


167 posted on 04/07/2024 2:11:59 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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