Posted on 04/06/2024 9:42:38 AM PDT by butterdezillion
Which of the many third parties do you vote for?
What difference is competition going to make? Suppose there is a competitive 3rd party. Nobody gets a majority of the electoral votes. It goes to the House of Representatives and they choose a President. What has changed?
You don’t solve anything without addressing the root cause of the problem. Why are the political parties up to no good? Because they can get away with it? Why can they get away with it? If people are stuck being in the House and Senate and get the same money either way, why not do something worthwhile rather than baloney? There has to be an incentive to keep doing the crap instead of sometimes doing something good. And if that’s the case, then that incentive will be the same regardless of how many parties there are.
I just don’t see where you’re coming from.
I support getting rid of the incentives for politicians to become crooks instead of actually serving a useful purpose. Remove the bribes and threats and policy decisions can be made on the merits.
Heck, if the democrats lost all their crooks, maybe even they would come up with some decent policy decisions.
Take Ukraine. If Ukraine wasn’t laundering money for all the crooks in DC, how many would vote to send their constituents’ tax dollars abroad to make sure all Ukrainian men end up dead? We all know why they won’t do the decent thing and push for a diplomatic ending to the bloodshed. It’s because they are all in the pockets of the moneyholders in Ukraine and elsewhere. That’s not going to change just because some of the crooks have an I behind their name instead of D or R.
As long as corruption can buy politicians, D, R, and I politicians will ALL be worthless for doing anything genuinely good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yBVSLDJpfw&t=1070s
OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT TRUMP (8 MINUTES) (2021) (Short of time? Scroll out to 5:20 for THE set-up for THE QUESTION @ 6:50!) If they don't STEAL ANOTHER ONE, WE MAY GET AN ANSWER.)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/L9NiozfN5xa2/
It worked with some of my family!
https://youtu.be/dqw7kXG0kxU
OR THIS ONE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iao12S_Wbc4
This is why I am not registered to vote and why I have no intentions of voting in 2024.
I hate all of them.
Yes But ....
BUMPERSTICKER.
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DON’T BE A CHUMP
.VOTE FOR TRUMP
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One of the things that the Right has long suffered from is “Electionism”.
Which is the delusion that if conservative politicians win an election, the “neutral” and “non-partisan” civil service and bureaucracy dispassionately implements their agenda.
In fact, the bureaucracies are captured, and are the centre of the Resistance.
The Left has never had popular support for any of their major agendas. Whether it was school prayer, death penalty, busing, affirmative action, mass immigration, “free trade”, gay marriage... they never had popular support for any of it.
But it doesn’t matter. If the elites all agree on something like “free trade” or mass immigration, they control the institutions which make it happen. Regardless of what the public wants.
The implication is the things that the elites agree on cannot be change by elections.
And when there are candidates like Trump (or Netanyahu, or Berlusconi) who are actually not part of that system, the Regime tries to put them in prison.
Exactly. We’ve reached the point where we cannot vote our way out of this. Trump is more a protest vote at this point.
That only appeals to someone already very pro-Trump, it turns off those who aren’t.
It is in your face and off putting, this thread is about persuading people, winning them over, bringing them in.
Any. Prefer libertarian but not the big 2 is good enough.
Libertarians hurt us, they gave Patty Murray a Senate seat, besides they are lefty.
No 3rd party vote helps conservatives, it only helps the left.
A few months ago, I thought that Trump getting elected again would have more of a Regime destabilizing effect. There seemed to be a possibility that they would go even further outside normal legal channels to stop him.
But one thing that has happened in the last few months, is they are signalling that Trump may well win, and get ready.
So they try to rig up NATO so he can’t get out. They transfer US assets to NATO control. They change civil service law to prevent mass firings. They tell Sotomeyer to quit now for a Biden chosen replacement.
It is still worth it for Trump to win, but it is not the basis of a real turnaround. Partially because a lot of the opposition is Repub. So even big majorities won’t necessarily help.
Competition means what competition has always meant: not being able to just sit on their ass and do nothing while the money rolls in. If they get competition some of that competition might actually stand for something. Some of it might actually try to solve problems. Just having competition will not being able jerrymander job security.
How are you going to remove the bribes and threats when there’s only 2 parties that exist entirely on bribes and threats?
You’ve got it backwards. The D and R are the SOURCE of the corruption. They built this system to get bribed. They will NEVER allow any law to get passed that will ever threaten the bribery. So if you want to end that you MUST support 3rd party
No they don’t. They gave you nothing. If your candidate sucks so bad they can’t win that’s on the candidate, not their competition. Especially the competition that never had a shot.
No big 3 vote helps America. It only supports corruption.
Best we can hope for is that Trump plants seeds that will grow over the long haul, but it might take a generation. It could positively influence the youth and turn them away from the wokeness that has plagued the previous generations.
You can vote against Trump if you want but that is throwing your vote away.
You Libertarians have helped the left quite a bit, such as Patty Murray.
Of course your party is radical left anyway.
Voting for a candidate you actually believe on never throwing your vote away.
Now voting for a party you know for a fact does not share your beliefs, will not try to do anything, and you will complain about insesantly... That is throwing you vote away.
How about Bunnies and Flowers ?
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It’s just Me ...
I know I’m a bit Brash
But I’m working on it.
Thanks
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PUPPY DOGS?
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