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To: zipper; Macho MAGA Man; stanne; Ruy Dias de Bivar; SkyDancer; Bonemaker; Revel; Blennos; ...

I don’t like what has happened at Boeing. (I do not work in civilian aviation, but I have military experience with aviation, so I have followed the industry and closely studied mishaps for many years)

Apart from the DIE issues in designing and building airplanes, the problem which is just as big, or bigger, is people in the industry involved in flying airplanes, maintaining airplanes, routing airplanes, or administrating airports and airlines, have sacrificed competency for the sake of sex and/or race.

The industry is waiting for a huge crash to happen.

And it is going to happen.

When it does, it is less likely to be a serious design flaw, and more likely to be something that takes what would be a relatively remote or insignificant design flaw and through incompetence, ignorance, or laziness is going to turn it into something where planes collide in the air or crash into the ground.

Anyone who follows mishaps in aviation knows that a design flaw is usually not responsible for a major mishap. It is usually a chain of events, starting small, which cascade into a major catastrophic event. And human error is one of the largest components.

The risks from most design flaws are minimized by policies and procedures from maintenance to flight, and everything in between to compensate for those flaws.


18 posted on 03/11/2024 5:15:42 PM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: rlmorel

Probably waiting for this disaster to strike ... so they can nationalize the industry.

Wouldn’t surprise me, with these tyrants.

Where are the Boeing and UAL board members on all of these catastrophes, and, DIE BS??


21 posted on 03/11/2024 5:23:33 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: rlmorel

“It is usually a chain of events, starting small, which cascade into a major catastrophic event. And human error is one of the largest components.”

Exactly right. It’s most often that cascade of events and people aren’t trained to observe and interpret what’s going on.

Three Mile Island and Chernobyl come to mind. The designers of Fukishima never anticipated a big tsunami knocking out the emergency generators.

I worked at a research institute for years and there was a big “Human Factors” program after TMI to understand how the operators interpreted the data being fed to them during the event. There were big changes in instrumentation, layout, and data presentation after that.


25 posted on 03/11/2024 5:33:18 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: rlmorel

Good observations! Boeing downfall began when the puke CEO moved their HQ to Chicago. Been downhill in every way ever since.


28 posted on 03/11/2024 5:38:56 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: rlmorel

Absolutely!


37 posted on 03/11/2024 6:12:49 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~A Bizjet Is Nothing But An Executive Mailing Tube ~)
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To: rlmorel

There is a series called “Mayday-Air disaster” streaming free on many channels. Anyone who watches those episodes will get a fair good idea of what causes major airline crashes. It can be the plane, it can be the control tower. But the vast majority of them are pilot error. Stupid mistakes.

what makes it hard with Boeing is that they basically committed mass murder multiple times because the design flaws they produced with MCAS were so severe and negligent that even a 10 year old in my day could have seen it coming.

Even so I don’t agree with blaming them for things until all the facts are in. I am sure you are right about the DEI thing. It also equivalent to farming much of their software out to India which was a huge part(conceptually) in causing those 737 Max Disasters. But it was not the only cause.

I still believe that the stab switches should have a purely electric manual position(Not just auto, and off). And they did not change that. They should be able to fly by yoke alone if need be. That one change alone could have saved those planes. The pilots could have maintained reasonable control while telling the software that crashed the plane to F off. Just one more position on a mechanical toggle switch would have saved those planes.


40 posted on 03/11/2024 6:51:18 PM PDT by Revel
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To: rlmorel; Red Badger; All

🚨 JUST IN: UNITED AIRLINES BOEING 777 TAKES OFF WITH MAJOR FUEL LEAK

This is happening WAY too frequently with both Boeing and United

The 777 was taking off from Sydney, Australia in route to San Francisco when it was captured on video dumping fuel all over the runway, which… pic.twitter.com/CZDXheT5IE— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) March 12, 2024


48 posted on 03/11/2024 7:40:20 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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