Posted on 02/26/2024 8:57:33 AM PST by Red Badger
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What’s Happening In America? 🚨 Texas Woman Has Her 2 Year Old Child Taken Away For Being Hesitant About The Medication Doctors Were Recommending
“CPS took him without a court order and without police officers seeing an immediate need for his removal”
“The boy's mother says that she never imagined that taking him to the hospital for a rash would end with him being taken away from her the very next day, and her court hearing is still a week away. I've never been away from my son for more than a few hours prior to this incident and has now been 60 days.”
“She took her 2 year old son, Josiah, to Children's Medical Center Dallas because her son had a rash that she believed was a reaction to a new laundry detergent.
And I realized that his foot was swelling, so, um, I took him to the hospital based on a referral from his pediatrician.
She says the doctor recommended a medicine she was not comfortable with.
I just was not okay with giving him clindamycin since that antibiotic is reserved for more severe infections.
Sanders decided to leave the hospital against medical advice to take Josiah to her pediatrician, which she did. Even so, the next afternoon, CPS officers came to her apartment accompanied by Corinth police. Chief Jerry Gardner told me by phone what his officers observed.”
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When one of my kids was having a mental health crisis, we were told to bring the kid to a facility or else. We chose instead to go to a place we liked better in another state. We drove there immediately so CPS could not get involved.
Even if you think it will never happen to you, always have a set of ready contingency plans in your head, part of which involves you going to a friend’s house with the kid until you decide what to do.
A contingency plan is a great idea. Taking action to seek out professional help when faced with a crisis is also a valid response that should keep CPS at bay.
Same as the police or any other Agent of The State. They're NOT "here to help you".
Demand that they not enter your house, but do not physically resist.
That is certainly good "legal advice", in the current state of our laws and the government's interpretation of them.
It's also morally wrong. Public servants acting in violation of the law are worse than common criminals; The People should be able to defend against them by any means necessary.
I also notice that many CPS people are cowards. They will come down hard on white parents, but not check on kids in REAL trouble in the “Hood”, because they do not want to tangle with people who might open up a barrel of whoop-ass on them.
We just don't know.
I'm siding with CPS on this one unless and until we get more information.
Okay gets more complicated. Child was being treated, family physician did provide an alterative medicine. CPS claims there was a court order. Child is malnourished but is being treated for that. Not mothers fault.
I bet hospital procedure is that if someone takes a child from the hospital against doctor's warnings, they call CPS.
Could very well be the case that protocol is to notify CPS if parent leaves AMA. But that is still bollocks.
My statement "at least ACS (NYC cps)" allowed for the possibility that elsewhere the right might be provided for.
I still maintain that NYC is lying their butts off. It is not a civil matter by any means. If it was they could not deprive you of your liberty nor could they remove your children let alone terminate parental rights. I did find a NY lawyer’s site,
https://www.lawny.org/node/462/rights-when-there-child-protective-investigation
That link comments on state CPS, but not NYC specific ACS.
There is no specific NYC CPS. They would be governed under NY State law. If they claim otherwise they are full of what makes the roses grow.
It is ACS in New York City. And if the government’s perspective is it can disallow attorneys in investigations because they are “civil”, then it can be the case that some offices opt in to allow it and others do not. It can also be the case that LawNY, a leftist organization which often argues there are rights where none exist, may be exaggerating, or may simply be getting their way in Western NY.
I looked on ACS’ website. As long as they have a CPS division charged with investigating allegations of abuse/neglect parents and guardians have rights of due process. As I wrote before if they can deprive a person of liberty, take away their children, and even go to court to terminate parental rights it is not a civil action, they are using criminal statutes not civil one.
You may find this article informative.
https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/10/05/childrens-services-acs-rights-parents-children/
There is no claim or source about having a lawyer present during the questioning.
First. I am not left win but I am curious, tell me about these rights that don’t exist. Second I once volunteered as a Guardian Ad Litem part of that training did include knowing what rights parents have pursuant to investigations. These rights are pretty much universal in the U.S. because of that Constitution thingy.
Just as some cops lie so do CPS workers. They hope you are not aware that you have certain rights.
I will write for one more and final time. CPS INVESTIGATIONS ARE NOT CIVIL ONES. THEY ARE CRIMINAL IN NATURE AND BY STATUTE.
Which is why never talk to CPS is a very smart position to take.
That I don’t agree with the position is why I have been placing “civil” in quotes. But an ex-girlfriend of mine who is a prominent family court attorney in NYC was arrested in an ACS building back in the early 2000’s for insisting on her client’s right to have her present during questioning.
So in short. ACS are bullies. I admit I do not quite get the difference outlined below,
“If ACS investigates, you can meet with a lawyer or an advocate, but you do not have the right to a lawyer. That changes if your case goes to Family Court. If that happens, you have the right to a lawyer. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be assigned to you”
If your friend requested to meet with her I don’t see how ACS had any valid reason to refuse that. I wonder why if at that point her client did not just refuse to continue talking to ACS. I know why, they were probably scared of not cooperating.
CPS/ACS should be entirely shut down. If a parent does something so bad they violate a penal code and get incarcerated, court can appoint a guardian and that’s it. Better than having an agency that is evil itself, used by evil neighbors and school officials, and even children themselves to get power.
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