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To: blitz128; Chad C. Mulligan; AdmSmith; SpeedyInTexas; PIF; USA-FRANCE; Monterrosa-24; MeganC; ...

I particularly like your next to last paragraph referring to Putin’s “Peace Plan”. One provision is he wants ALL of each Oblast (county) where he has occupied PART of the Oblast. In other words the people who worked so hard to rescue Kherson and the territory west of the river would have to give it all back. Ain’t gonna happen! His peace proposal would increase the 20% of Ukraine he now occupies to around 30%. How soon before he would move on the rest of Ukraine?

Good news from NATO, now meeting in DC. If I understand correctly, they have now agreed to allow Ukraine to use long range gift missiles and bombs in Crimea. If Putin thought a massive bombing raid on Ukraine, including hitting a children’s cancer hospital would intimidate NATO, he obviously does not understand the Western mind or its true Christian ethics.


3,701 posted on 07/10/2024 5:47:58 PM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority an you provide links)
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To: gleeaikin

That is good, however long range atacms needs to be unleashed on all of Russia, but most esp those air bases and Sam’s in range
And this time announcement has to come after atacms rain down hell on his aircraft , crews, maintainers, and airfield infrastructures

Pitins “peace plan” is the surrender of Ukraine, the balls to require a possibility of a cease fire after Ukrainians have left the areas he claims but has not even conquered is delusional

And that to a tee describes this ego maniacal evil person, delusional


3,706 posted on 07/10/2024 6:38:25 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: gleeaikin; Chad C. Mulligan; PIF; USA-FRANCE; Monterrosa-24
gleeaikin: "His peace proposal would increase the 20% of Ukraine he now occupies to around 30%."

pink = Russian occupied areas of Ukraine.
blue = regions liberated from Russian occupation.

I've heard others say 20% too, so that's a number being thrown around.
The real number is around 14%, though you can make it look like 20% with some creative math.

  1. Ukraine is nearly the size of Texas, ~233,000 square miles.

  2. In March 2022 at the peak of Russian conquests, Russia occupied ~62,000 square miles of Ukraine = 27%

  3. By the end of 2022, Ukraine had liberated 29,000 square miles = 13%.

  4. This left Russians occupying 33,000 square miles = 14% of Ukraine.

  5. Since the end of 2022, Russians have conquered another roughly 300 square miles of Ukraine, at a cost of circa 400,000 casualties, or more than 1,000 casualties per square mile.
    The average ratio of Russian to Ukrainian casualties increased this year from 3 to 1, to now 6 to 1, with Russian Meat Wave assaults costing them up to 10 to 1 casualties.

  6. At the current rate, it will take Russia more than 1,000 years to conquer all of Ukraine, and will consume all of Russia's current 140 million population as casualties.
So where does that 20% number come from?
Well, if you subtract Russian occupied 33,000 square miles from Ukraine's 233,000 total = 200,000 then 33,000 divided by 200,000 = 17% which can be rounded up to 20%?


3,712 posted on 07/11/2024 5:02:44 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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