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To: BeauBo; PIF; All
Putin offers a ceasefire in the event of the withdrawal of Ukrainian forces from the Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, within their administrative borders (most of which Russia does not control and actually withdrew from after a defeat of Russian formations, such as in Kherson), in addition to rejection of NATO accession plans.

https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1801564462454829155

These are the regions Putin demands from Ukraine to withdraw for starting negotiations.

26,000 square kilometers.

Larger than the area of ​​most of Germany's federal states or countries such as North Macedonia, Slovenia or Israel.

https://x.com/clashreport/status/1801583791774847138


2,985 posted on 06/14/2024 7:05:13 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: FtrPilot

“Putin offers a ceasefire... Ukraine to withdraw for starting negotiations. (negotiations on further Ukrainian concessions).

He just wants to introduce uncertainty before Ukraine’s peace summit.

No letting Putin off the hook. He needs to wrestle with the tar baby he attacked, until he he has punched out his Military and bankrupted his Treasury. Then we can dictate terms.


2,987 posted on 06/14/2024 7:15:43 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: FtrPilot

Generous guy /s


2,993 posted on 06/14/2024 9:09:13 AM PDT by blitz128
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“Putin offers a ceasefire”

ISW’s take:

“The Kremlin will continue to feign interest in negotiations at critical moments in the war to influence Western decision-making on support for Ukraine and to continue efforts to extract preemptive concessions from the West. The Kremlin has repeatedly engaged in a large-scale reflexive control campaign that aims to influence Western decision-making.

Reflexive control is a key element in Russia’s hybrid warfare toolkit and relies on shaping an adversary with targeted rhetoric and information operations in such a way that the adversary voluntarily takes actions that are advantageous to Russia.

Kremlin officials claimed that Russia was open to negotiations in December 2022, likely to delay the provision of Western tanks and other equipment essential for the continuation of Ukrainian mechanized counteroffensives.

Western reporting on Putin’s alleged interest in negotiations in Winter 2023-2024 coincided with prolonged debates in the US about security assistance for Ukraine, and the Kremlin may have feigned interest in a ceasefire at this time to convince Western policymakers to pressure Ukraine to negotiate from a weakened position and agree to what would have very likely been a settlement that heavily favored Russia.

The Kremlin may again be feigning interest in negotiations in order to influence the ongoing Western debate about lifting restrictions on Ukraine’s use of Western-provided weapons to strike military targets in Russia and convince Western policymakers that changes in these restrictions may lead to Russian unwillingness to negotiate in the future.

The Kremlin may also be feigning interest in negotiations again to preemptively influence any future Western discussions about the provision of the additional aid that Ukrainian forces will need to contest the initiative and launch their own counteroffensive operations in the medium term.

ISW continues to assess that the consistent provision of key Western systems will play a crucial role in Ukraine’s ability to contest the theater-wide initiative and conduct future counteroffensive operations.

US officials have recently stated that the resumption of US security assistance will help Ukrainian forces withstand Russian assaults throughout the rest of 2024 and that Ukrainian forces will look to conduct counteroffensive operations to recapture territory in 2025.”


3,002 posted on 06/14/2024 12:19:36 PM PDT by BeauBo
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