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1 posted on 01/03/2024 1:17:44 AM PST by spirited irish
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Russell Kirk is not much liked by Neocons, who prefer a "proposition nation." A nation of immigrants with open borders, global free trade, and America as the world policeman.

The Neocons slandered, dismissed, and/or purged authentic conservatives such as Kirk, Joseph Sobran, Sam Francis and Pat Buchanan.

2 posted on 01/03/2024 1:27:19 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: spirited irish
John Adams said essentially the same thing long ago: “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

His point was that the Constitution is powerless to govern a nation populated by people who are not morally self-restrained by faith in, and allegiance to God. In such a case, the freedom provided by the Constitution only becomes a license to do evil. Self-restraint instilled by devotion to God is therefore more important than valueless ideological principles. This is why the majority of Republican elected officials who shy away from discussing what they call “social issues” during election season are dead wrong. This country cannot function without getting the “social issues” (in other words, moral self-restraint) right first, just as Adams said. Without a people who can restrain their own passions because of faith in God, conservatives can talk all they want about “conservative ideology”, and it will just be so many empty, ineffectual words.

I’ve always been tremendously irritated by the irreligious conservatives who seem to be driven by nothing more than pure pragmatism. These are the same people who constantly dismiss out of hand any suggestion of addressing society’s steep moral decline. They are fools who, exactly like the liberals, want the benefits provided by America’s system that is founded upon Judeo-Christian morality, but don’t want to be held to that standard of behavior themselves. These people are really just unrepentant sinners who want to hold onto their sin, but enjoy the benefits that only a nation largely populated by penitent believers can provide.

That approach will never work. At best, it might lower our taxes slightly while the entire country slides into oblivion.

4 posted on 01/03/2024 2:07:14 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: spirited irish

In many respects, conservatism is a rejection of groupthink, which is why it often fails as a “movement”. It doesn’t have a central purpose because its ideology is individualism. It has no need for “revolutions” and societal change as long as individuals are allowed to govern their own lives. Modern liberalism, on the other hand, is about strength through numbers for the purpose of forcing the world to do what they want. And they intentionally misunderstand conservatism for the purpose of demonizing it. They are willing to sacrifice individualism for what they consider a greater central purpose.


5 posted on 01/03/2024 2:09:43 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: spirited irish

The fight is not between Conservatives and Liberals or between Republicans and Democrats.

The battle is between honest people and criminals.

The fight is between those who believe in using intellect and hard work to get ahead versus those who believe in using fraud and strong-arm tactics to get ahead.


6 posted on 01/03/2024 2:38:03 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: spirited irish
" It is the rejection of ideology rather than the exercise of it." And the reason for that?: By their very natures all ideologies are inflexible. That is why any time an ideology is used as a societal blueprint it ends in economic destruction and mass murder. Neocons, being "evolved" (ahem) Red Diaper Babies, can never grasp that sobering reality.
7 posted on 01/03/2024 2:57:38 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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11 posted on 01/03/2024 5:51:58 AM PST by BipolarBob (My investment choice for 2024 is pre-ban menthol cigarettes. )
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To: spirited irish

Democracy is always dead wherever it goes. It’s mass rule. Only a representative republic, as laid out in the Constitution, has any hope of surviving.


12 posted on 01/03/2024 6:47:49 AM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: spirited irish

If you measure a culture by it’s morality, by Western standards, Islam has its large share of immoral atrocities. Yet, Russel Kirk says nothing. For not doing so, he is as hypocritical as they get.


13 posted on 01/03/2024 4:13:07 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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