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US Naval Aviator explains why in air to air combat a P-51 Mustang would toast an F-117 Nighthawk everyday
Aviation Geek Club ^ | November 30, 2023 | Dario Leone

Posted on 11/30/2023 3:21:06 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man

The F-117 Nighthawk The F-117 is the world’s first operational stealth aircraft. The Nighthawk is a single-seat, twin-engine stealth attack aircraft. Only 64 were ever built and first flew in 1981. The US Air Force (USAF) “Retired” the aircraft in 2008.

Although officially retired, many F-117s remain airworthy and are used to support limited research and training missions based on overall cost effectiveness and their ability to offer unique capabilities.

Moreover, as we have already reported, the remaining F-117s conduct dissimilar air combat training (DACT) missions with other USAF air assets.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dogfight; f117nighthawk; p51mustang; stealthfighter
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I agree with this guy, the Mustang would would shred the Nighthawk to pieces in one on one aerial combat.
1 posted on 11/30/2023 3:21:06 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

If it could find it.


2 posted on 11/30/2023 3:24:32 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Hub was usaf single seater combat pilot

Has a picture of a P-51 mustang in the den. In the I love me room.

His favorite airplane


3 posted on 11/30/2023 3:26:39 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

My husband flew Thunder Mustangs - a .75 scale of the P-51.

Tricky but fun!


4 posted on 11/30/2023 3:29:01 PM PST by Aria
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Check out Growling Sidewinder on youtube. He does weird dogfight matches using Digital Combat Simulator. Such as the P-47 Thunderbolt vs. the A-10 Thunderbolt II, for example. He also does more realistic matches such as the F-16 vs. the Su-27. And classics, too, such as the MiG-15 vs. the F-86 Sabre. Great fun!


5 posted on 11/30/2023 3:29:13 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

Thanks. I’ll check it out.


6 posted on 11/30/2023 3:31:48 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: stanne
I’ve heard of an “I Love Me” wall. Never an entire room, though anything is possible, I guess. :)
7 posted on 11/30/2023 3:32:30 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Well, the F-117 cannot shoot back for one thing.


8 posted on 11/30/2023 3:33:42 PM PST by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I heard the North Vietnamese had biplanes during our conflict with them. Supposedly, they were difficult to shoot down because of the low altitude, low heat signature, and maneuverability. No idea if any of this is true.


9 posted on 11/30/2023 3:34:47 PM PST by rey
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Years ago, I won a silent auction to fly a T-34 Navy Fighter. The pilot gave me the stick to do horizontal and vertical rolls. Only pulled 4gs but that was more than enough for me.


10 posted on 11/30/2023 3:35:37 PM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Freedom4US

You caught me. I sent while thinking nah it’s a wal.
Lazy


11 posted on 11/30/2023 3:36:01 PM PST by stanne
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Would like to point out, the F117 operated only at night and is a bomber/attack aircraft. It’s mission is one of stealth to avoid enemy radar and attack high value targets at night.


12 posted on 11/30/2023 3:37:12 PM PST by DownInFlames (p)
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Well, the F-117 cannot shoot back for one thing.

I don’t think it has guns.

13 posted on 11/30/2023 3:38:07 PM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Might have something to do with the F-117 NOT being a fighter, despite the “F” designation. Hell, it doesn’t even have a gun!


14 posted on 11/30/2023 3:38:35 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: stanne

Well … some pilots could probably fill up an entire room with “I love me” stuff. I figured you’d never allow it. /s


15 posted on 11/30/2023 3:41:56 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Macho MAGA Man

in what scenario???


16 posted on 11/30/2023 3:46:01 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

For one thing, the F-117 is not a fighter and has no guns.


17 posted on 11/30/2023 3:47:20 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Bikkuri

I know that.


18 posted on 11/30/2023 3:48:27 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

The Nighthawk never had air to air capabilities of any kind, so we might as well be comparing the Mustang to the B-2 Spirit. Since the Mustang has no radar, he has to be lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time to find the Nighthawk visually. Then, the F-117 is 250 mph faster than the P-51, so the “right place, right time” window is going to be pretty small.


19 posted on 11/30/2023 3:52:31 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mark17

I think I’d prefer to take the P-51 out with an air-to-air missile.


20 posted on 11/30/2023 3:54:48 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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