Posted on 07/31/2023 5:57:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Science is studying the impacts of Covid but not the shot…
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34555203/
Yep, exactly. True objective science should study both in an unbiased manner to see where the evidence leads I would think. Not doing so certainly looks like ther is an agenda behind the issue. would be nice to see an actual study where those who got vaccinated but never caught covid stand in relation to increased heart problems or not.
Concur.
Anyone who actually read the report would see that the excess AMI deaths began in “Pandemic epoch 1 4/2020–9/2020,” peaked in “Pandemic epoch 2 10/2020–3/2021,” and then decreased from the peak in “Pandemic epoch 3 4/2021–9/2021” and “Pandemic epoch 4 10/2021–3/2022.”
The vaxx rollout, however, began in February 2021 and became widely available to all age groups beginning in April - May 2021, and yet there was no significant increase in excess AMI deaths in Pandemic Epoch 3 or 4 over Pandemic Epochs 1 and 2.
The logical conclusion — based upon this statistical study — is that the vaxx was probably not a significant cause of the excess AMI deaths. But don’t expect a lot of logical thought from Infowars.
In the not too distant future..an ounce of non jabbed “blueblood” will be worth more than gold.
There is already a blood bank storing non jabbed blood for the exclusive use of the donor or designated person.
Covid itself and also the injections have spike proteins, which might well have been engineered bioweapons. Just because the rise started prior to availability of the vaxx doesn’t logically prove that the vaxx is beneficial or even nonlethal.
“It’s a BS paper. You are being lied to.”
Lol! Hilarious! It’s the very same paper that your InfoWars writer claims that he’s using for his article!
He provides the link to it himself!
Maybe you should try reading your own posting next time before making a fool of yourself again. Priceless.
Thank you Lord for guiding my family away from this evil.
It is possible Covid itself and the vaccine are contributors to the increase in heart related illness. Unfortunately the normal long term scientific trials were not run for the vaccine and the control groups in the initial trials were not continued due to the pressure to get everyone vaccinated. We also know the statistics surrounding Covid deaths were p, and still possibly are being manipulated to exaggerate deaths from Covid.
There has also been an absence of rigorous scientific research to determine side effects and long term safety of the vaccine. Furthermore there have been few autopsies of sudden death patients.
Certainly the efforts of the FDA and the primary vaccine producers to delay for 75 years the release to the public of the data supporting the emergency use authorization has not inspired trust in the “science”. Neither has the continuation of blanket immunity from lawsuits for the drug companies and the insistence of government on vaccinating young children without any scientific evidence of the long term safety of the vaccine in children.
Historically long term trials of new vaccines and drugs have been a requirement for use authorization. Even with long term trials some treatments have been pulled from the market after authorization due to negative experience in widespread use. It is noteworthy that approved treatments have been withdrawn from the market after far fewer reports of adverse reactions than have been recorded for the Covid vaccines.
What seems to be missing with the Covid vaccines is a desire by government and the scientific community to engage in rigorous controlled testing to investigate side effects and prove the safety of the vaccines. The legitimate questions are not being evaluated and answered with hard evidence and testing. The questioners are still being attacked, ridiculed and sometimes punished for reasonable doubt. Reasonable inquiry and debate has been politicized and rational inquiry crushed. Whenever questioning is suppressed arbitrarily, instead of being responded to with evidence, people naturally become concerned and loose faith in those who suppress information and deny inquiry.
The push to vax without long term trials came about at the time the Russia collusion hoax was slowly being revealed. Many of the strong advocates for emergency use authorization, and later mandates, were the same politicians and bureaucrats who perpetuated the Russia collusion hoax as well as the labeling of the January 6 incident as an attempt to overthrow the government. Their forceful implementation of vaccines without testing, extended lockdowns of society, suppression of information, and crushing of debate in order to implement health policy created resentment, doubt and contributed to reluctance to take the vaccines.
It may be the vaccines are “safe” within the long term definition of safe. We don’t know because rigorous scientific testing has not been performed. We do know that initial claims the Covid vaccines were 95% effective in preventing the disease were false as was the claim the vaccinated could not spread the disease. We also know the natural immunity of those who contracted Covid, before vaccines were available, provided future protection at least as good as the vaccines and possibly better. We know the experts virtually ignored natural immunity. We also know from foreign scientific trials, and real world experience outside the US, some drug therapies work well in treating Covid patients as well as reducing the chances of infection. We know also the US medical establishment ignores those realities and continues to label the evidence misinformation.
We also know the development of the vaccine was funded by the taxpayer. We know the government purchased the vaccine in huge quantities and administered it free of charge to the public. We know the pharmaceutical companies made record profits on the sale of the product to the government and received blanket immunity from prosecution by people taking the vaccines who experienced side effects and death. One could certainly question this socialist business model which paid off handsomely for company executives, stockholders, politicians receiving millions in campaign contributions from big pharma, media companies receiving millions in big pharma advertising, and government scientists who receive royalty payments, grants, and post retirement jobs from the pharmaceutical industry. However there is no public debate on the issue of possible corruption and collusion. The appearance of corruption though does contribute to skepticism about motives and the truth about a vaccine program that enriched many special interests and government officials.
Is the vaccine, the rapidly mutating Covid vaccine, or a combination of both responsible for the rise in heart disease and sudden deaths? Today we have an emerging public awareness of the increased incidence of heart disease, without hard evidence of the cause and contributing factors. The debate currently is based on speculation and therefore becomes emotional and political, particularly when entrenched special interests and huge amounts of money are involved.
The correct response is to conduct objective scientific testing and evaluating of cases, rigorous objective analysis of data, and perform more autopsies of those who are dying. Instead any questioning and calls for evidence are being met with claims of “misinformation”, “settled science”, personal attacks, and imposition of censorship to stifle debate.
Science has been politicized. The commitment of science to rationally searching for the truth has been destroyed. Curiosity and inquiry is suppressed. Questioning is met with censorship and punishment instead of reasoned debate based on facts.
How can anyone know the truth about Covid, and the Covid vaccines, when debate is stifled and real scientific investigation does not occur.
It should be nailed on the doors of all the shot shills here as well as every house that has the lunatic left's creed signs of "We believe..." decorating their lawns.
There's no question (admitted by the CDC) that the Covd-19 mRNA vaccines can cause myocarditis. Thus, both the Covid viral infection and the vaccine can cause the same inflammatory condition in the heart. In the absence of active infection, in the case of the mRNA vaccine, the only plausible explanation is that the immune reaction against the viral spike protein is initiating inflammation causing the myocarditis.
So, it's possible that inflammation directed against the spike protein (and cells in which it is being produced or in which there is spike protein attached to external receptors) could be the link between myocarditis caused by either the infection or the vaccination. The same could be true about vascular inflammation that may be predisposing mechanism to thrombus.
Yes, conjectural, but a reasonable conjecture based upon available data.
How do you explain coutries like Africa with almost no Covid cases and they do not have the problem with Women/children tragic still born and spontaneous abortion? Oh, it was perfectly safe for women, BIG LIE!
It is not the Covid, it is the mRNA JAB doing what it was planned to do. Reduce the world population.
This is a betrayal of mankind on a scale never before experienced.
“gaslight”
Hilarious.
What you are calling “gaslight” is the very study that the InfoWars guy helpfully links to in his article. The one that he claims supports his argument!
Do you see that red “A recent study” in his article?
That’s the link thatr takes you directly to the PubMed study that you think is “gaslight”. And which E. Pluribus Unum said is “a BS paper”.
Man I love these threads! Just reading and directly quoting the actual articles gets the clowns attacking their own postings. You can’t make this stuff up!
tryhard
“How can anyone know the truth about Covid, and the Covid vaccines”
Allow consilience from many, many unrelated sources of information to guide you over time. Fueled by your Spidey Sense. That will typically point you to at least the vicinity of the truth, if not always a dead-on hit. It will also typicall help you to quickly sniff out liars, gaslighters, propagandists.
Labiarinthine looks like a possible body snatcher as well.
FWIW.
They seem to be everywhere. Also, they seem to enjoy tagteaming people.
We are all Donald Sutherland now.
He is illustrating how deranged you vaccine-poison deniers are.
How does that deflection attempt explain you calling your own article “BS”?
That stunt was priceless.
Ego Magnum Stultum might be a more appropriate handle for you to use.
I don’t waste my time on “brought to you by Pfizer” parrots.
“I don’t waste my time on “brought to you by Pfizer” parrots.”
Well we already learned that you didn’t waste your time reading the article that you posted so it’s not a surprise.
But no problem, that’s what provided others with a good laugh. I look forward to your next exercise in self mockery. Cheers!
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