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Putin’s warning on the F-16’s
Dances with Bears ^ | June 17th 23 | John Helmet

Posted on 06/18/2023 2:52:52 PM PDT by delta7

Until June 24 the combined air forces of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) are conducting their largest operation against Russia in the 74-year history of the alliance. The plan has been to disguise F-16 fighter jets as if they are piloted by Ukrainians, and pretend they are launched from Ukrainian territory.

In response, Russian artillery, missile and fighter-bomber forces have been disabling and destroying Ukrainian airfields, and every Ukrainian aircraft being flown from them.

Then on Friday, President Vladimir Putin dismissed the NATO pretence, warning that if an F-16 threatens to attack a Russian target, it would be “burned”, and so would the launch airbase and supporting aircraft – fuel tankers, electronic countermeasures, command-and-control, and decoys – no matter what NATO member-state flag they are flying, and on what territory they are based.

“The F-16 will also burn, there is no doubt,” Putin said in St. Petersburg on June 16. “But if they are located at air bases outside Ukraine, and used in combat operations, we will have to look at how to hit and where to hit those means that are used in combat operations against us. This is a serious danger of NATO’s further involvement in this armed conflict.” When the president and commander-in-chief announces “we will have to look at how to hit”, he means the General Staff have already assembled the operational intelligence and readied plans of attack with three minutes to launch; that is, against targets in Poland, Romania, Moldova, and possibly further west across the Czech and German borders.

In the president’s phrase “those means that are used in combat operations against us”, Putin also intends to identify airborne targets, manned and unmanned, over the Black, Baltic, and Barents Seas.

Never before has NATO’s collective defence proviso Article Five been explicitly challenged by the Kremlin. In practice, by describing the agreement of the NATO members that “an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all”, the NATO wording does no more than require each of the NATO members to take “forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary.” .

What is happening is that by aiming their display of NATO airpower at the Kremlin, US and German commanders in their Ramstein bunkers have provoked Putin to call their bluff: he is now aiming directly at the Poles, Romanians and Germans, telling them to “deem” whether war with Russia is “necessary”. “Well, the Poles,” added Putin, “okay, they have their own goals, they sleep and see the return of Western Ukraine. And, apparently, they are gradually coming to this.” In parallel, the US has escalated to nuclear weapons by flying two US Air Force (USAF) B-1B bombers from the UK Fairford airbase, refuelling in Germany, transiting Poland and Romania, to a point in the Black Sea off the Crimean coast and the Sevastopol naval base, where the aircraft transponders were turned off from public view.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, French President Emmanuel Macron, and Polish President Andrzej Duda have been also been trying to disguise Article Five by negotiating between themselves — they told the press last week — “what sort of security guarantees they would provide [the Ukraine] once the war ends… ‘Our support will last as long as it is needed’, Macron said. ‘We must ensure that Russia will not only not win this unfortunate campaign but also can never repeat it.’”

German Leopard tanks, US Bradley infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs) destroyed on the battlefield on June 10; source,

The Financial Times was told to report the three officials are discussing how to provide the Ukraine with security guarantees less potent than NATO membership with its application of Article Five, but instead assurances “that are expected to include annual provisions of cutting-edge weaponry, Nato-standard training and intelligence-sharing…‘The question is between guarantees and assurances’ said one European diplomat involved in the talks. ‘We can’t promise them we will go to war for them, but we can give long-term pledges to keep them safe in other ways.’”

On the Ukrainian battlefield, however, the “cutting-edge” German, French and US weaponry has been defeated, and the Ukrainian and foreign men and means to replace them destroyed. The outcome which the Russians have called “de-militarization” of Ukrainian territory at the start of the Special Military Operation last year has now been defined by Putin to mean the accession of the Russian territories east of the Dnieper River, plus a “sanitary zone” from the river westward from Kiev to Lvov which will be deep enough to prevent attacks on the Russian east; and Polish conversion of the Galician region between Lvov and the Polish border.

Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/JjxHCw5PP2s9/ For the full speech and question-and-answer session, see: (Russian); the English translation incomplete.

“As for demilitarization,” Putin said on Friday, “after all, look, soon Ukraine will stop using its own equipment at all, there is nothing left. Everything they fight on, and everything they use, is brought in from the outside, but you can’t win for so long. And our defense industry is being promoted from day to day. We have increased the output of military products 2.7 times over the past year, and the increase in the most popular samples is tenfold, and further growth is taking place. Enterprises work in two, three shifts, and some day and night. And this tells us that we have a very large margin of safety.”

The implication is that for the Russian war outcome to be checked or defeated before there is no Ukrainian army left on the battlefield, “security guarantees” and “assurances” from NATO will not be enough — Germany, France and Poland must fight Russia directly, activating Article Five thereby. Their bluff called in Friday’s ultimatum over the deployment of the F-16, “the serious danger of NATO’s further involvement in this armed conflict”, as Putin warned, is that Germany, France and Poland will also be defeated on the field, and have no “security guarantee” or “assurance” to rely on for themselves, let alone for the Ukraine.

In his Friday speech Putin warned that Ukrainian military operations are failing up and down the line of contact. “What is going on with this so-called counteroffensive? Not quite so: somewhere Ukrainian units manage to reach the first line, somewhere they fail – that’s not the question. The question is that they use so-called strategic reserves, which consist of several components. The first of them is designed to break through the defense, the second is to use troops to consolidate territories, move through the territory. They didn’t achieve their goals at any of the sites – that’s what’s important.”

“Indeed, their losses are very large, about even more than one in ten compared to the Russian army. This is a fact. On technology: every day there is an increase in the loss of this equipment, somewhere now, to date, 186 tanks have been lost by the Ukrainian army and 418 armored vehicles of various classes. I’m not talking about the personnel right now, it’s necessary for the Ministry of Defense to voice itself. But, I repeat, the most important thing is that there is no success in any of the areas. The enemy had no success, as reported by the military.”

What happens next on the battlefield? In the broadcast George Eliason introduces the evidence that, in desperation, the Ukrainian military will attempt to trigger a major nuclear explosion at the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant (NPP), causing radiation contamination of the surrounding area, as the Ukrainian destruction of the Kakhovka dam on June 6 attempted to use flood water to the same effect.

For the story of Ukrainian artillery and commando attacks on the Zaporozhye NPP, read this.

For more details on the Kakhovka dam attacks, click. The first segment of the broadcast concludes with breaking news from federal court in Boston, Massachusetts, where the grand jury indictment of Jack Teixeira in the Pentagon Papers case was unsealed and published on June 15. Click to read in full the 10-page document.

For the time being, the Bellingcat intelligence unit and the New York Times, which have been collaborating to convict Teixeira of espionage, have failed to see the dramatic shift in the US prosecutors’ case against the young US Air Force (USAF) national guardsman. According to the Times report, “the evidence presented in the 10-page indictment represents a distillation of the immense trove of secrets Airman Teixeira is accused of taking from computers at an intelligence unit at the Cape Cod air base — and sharing with online friends he was hoping to impress in chat groups on Discord, a social media platform popular with gamers. But it was not immediately clear how many of the vaguely described incidents that underlie the charges had been previously disclosed and which ones were being made public for the first time.”

In fact, the new court filing confirms the Justice Department has decided to downgrade the originally reported charges against Teixeira from espionage on behalf of a foreign state or organisation to “willful retention and transmission of national defense information”.………


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It is getting more obvious every day the EU is fracturing. Should the US escalate and make a big mistake with the F-16’s, the airfields and all supporting equipment will be taken out ( as stated, “ in three minutes”) no doubt by Kinzhals. Vlad, like Trump, means what he says.

As Vlad has planned for conflict with NATO and the West for a few years, it will be interesting who wins that one without nukes. Vlad seems to still hold all the cards.

1 posted on 06/18/2023 2:52:52 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

The OBAMA war is heating up, coming soon to a country near you!!!


2 posted on 06/18/2023 3:02:49 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: delta7

I really loce how people,here think Putin and Russia are the good guys here.

There are no good guys in this stupid incident. This is all to kill off more men, white men in particular, and weaken europe more, and exhaust european and american conventional military stockpiles.


3 posted on 06/18/2023 3:03:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: delta7

I’ve been saying for over a year that WWIII will begin when the Russians can no longer bear NATO weaponry massively killing Russians without a response of Russian weaponry killing NATO personnel in NATOland, most likely Poland.


4 posted on 06/18/2023 3:07:56 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: delta7

Seems reasonable - if Poland decides to use their runways for attacks on Russia, then they’re at war with Russia, and will have to deal with what that entails.


5 posted on 06/18/2023 3:08:33 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Secret Agent Man

There are no good guys in the world these days.


6 posted on 06/18/2023 3:08:59 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“There are no good guys in this stupid incident. This is all to kill off more men, white men in particular”

Considering that the side that started this war, NATO/Neocons, and the side that wants to keep the killing going on as long as possible, again NATO/Neocons, there may not be good guys, but there are OBVIOUS bad guys (NATO/Neocons), at least with respect to keeping the white race intact.


7 posted on 06/18/2023 3:11:09 PM PDT by BobL
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To: delta7

We have a bunch of neocon idiots running our foreign policy. It will be up to the major EU countries to rein the US in. Ukraine isn’t going to win or even hold out that much longer without direct NATO involvement and I doubt Europe is up for that.


8 posted on 06/18/2023 3:11:43 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: delta7
It is getting more obvious every day the EU is fracturing.

The Russians have "put the question" to the Poles. The Poles will eventually tell Biden to shove it and they won't base F-16s. Unlike the American escalators and warmongers, they actually have to live in this neighborhood. Germany already has seller's regret with their Leopard IIs. Germans miss the days when they and Frau Merkel actually had influence in world affairs and had a say in their future.

9 posted on 06/18/2023 3:14:45 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Secret Agent Man

The Russians sure aint the bad guys.

They have told the west for 30 years they DO NOT want another NATO aligned country on their border. They said NO and meant NO!
How would we respond if Russia put military and missiles into Mexico?
We all saw how it went during the Cuban crisis...brought to us by the CIA which resulted in the assassination of a POTUS who intended on breaking up the CIA.

This is another war brought to us by the CIA and the military industrial complex.
What did Ike say about them again?


10 posted on 06/18/2023 3:15:15 PM PDT by crz
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To: delta7

The US and NATO are going to get a thrashing.

The US and NATO have the lowest caliber of people ever in our history to deal with this. We’re in a heap of trouble and a Perfect Storm could be coming.


11 posted on 06/18/2023 3:15:24 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Making room for muzzies to move into the lands of the white supremacists disgiused as needy migrants. Apocalypse NOW.


12 posted on 06/18/2023 3:17:45 PM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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You know what just occurred to me?

Putin never threatened to kill me with an F-16. But my president did.

Hmmm...


13 posted on 06/18/2023 3:18:37 PM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: eyeamok
The OBAMA war is heating up, coming soon to a country near you!!!

Let me tell you something boys and girls:

If the Republicans in Congress don't figure out what's what and soon, Uncle Brandon is going to get us into a nice big war and blame it all on the Trump administration.

And the MSM will parrot that accusation so loud that nothing else will be heard.

And the internet will be used to censor any dissenting voices. If a war is declared, those dissenting will be thrown in jail on treason or sedition charges.

14 posted on 06/18/2023 3:18:53 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: laplata

“he US and NATO have the lowest caliber of people ever i...”

Yes! We need pistol braces. Lots of them.


15 posted on 06/18/2023 3:20:47 PM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: crz

>>How would we respond if Russia put military and missiles into Mexico?<<

You must not have lived during the Kennedy years and the Cuban missile crisis.


16 posted on 06/18/2023 3:23:04 PM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: Steely Tom

Putting on my tinfoil hat here.

What if the idea is to get us into a war, which we will half heartedly engage in, then our Government declares we have been defeated and are going to negotiate surrender.

One of the terms of surrender would be that sadly, the constitution is no more.


17 posted on 06/18/2023 3:24:32 PM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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"How would we respond if Russia put military and missiles into Mexico?"

But...but...Russia invaded Ukraine!

18 posted on 06/18/2023 3:25:17 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: laplata

The US and NATO have the lowest caliber ( immoral and inexperienced) of people ever in our history to deal with this. We’re in a heap of trouble and a Perfect Storm could be coming.
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Excellent observation. The unanswered question I have is about our DOD, is the Pentagon full of woke twinkle toes Miley’s? If so, I fully expect huge defeats for our once powerful military, it’s a Biblical history thing.

It is getting obvious, when/if called upon to perform, they will fail for many reasons- for all the world to see.


19 posted on 06/18/2023 3:25:24 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Sarcazmo

Another term is that we owe reoperations, to be paid with our retirement accounts.


20 posted on 06/18/2023 3:25:54 PM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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