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Joe Rogan Challenges Vaccine Researcher Peter Hotez to Debate RFK Jr. - Then Elon Musk Steps Into the Mix
Red State ^ | 06/17/2023 | Nick Arama

Posted on 06/18/2023 11:28:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I have to admit that while there are likely many things that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and I would disagree on, I do like his willingness to challenge the democratic orthodoxy and not be quiet about it. For that “crime,” he is not liked by the powers that be. I think the Biden team is a little bit scared of him, which is one of the reasons they don’t want to have a debate with him. He’s got the Kennedy name, he’s a lightning rod, and he’s about ten times smarter than Joe, with the ability to put together a coherent sentence.

RFK Jr. recently appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast. We covered how he thought his uncle may have been killed by the CIA. But he also spoke about vaccinations, and that ticked off vaccine scientist Peter Hotez, who didn’t like the fact that Rogan had Kennedy on to spread vaccine “misinformation,” and he tweeted a story that attacked Spotify for running the interview.

Spotify Has Stopped Even Sort of Trying to Stem Joe Rogan’s Vaccine Misinformation. It’s really true ⁦@annamerlan⁩ just awful. And from all the online attacks I’m receiving after this absurd podcast, it’s clear many actually believe this nonsense.


https://t.co/GwIFsOODC2

— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 17, 2023

That’s when Joe Rogan threw down the gauntlet offering Hotez, who he’s had on his show, $100,000 to come on the podcast and debate RFK Jr., with no time limit.

Peter, if you claim what RFKjr is saying is “misinformation” I am offering you $100,000.00 to the charity of your choice if you’re willing to debate him on my show with no time limit. https://t.co/m0HxYek0GX

— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 17, 2023

RFK Jr. immediately agreed. He’s shown he’s willing to debate what he thinks.

Peter. Let’s finally have the respectful,congenial,informative debate that the American people deserve.

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) June 17, 2023

Elon Musk was all for the battle.

🔥🔥

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 17, 2023

Hotez responded that Rogan had his contact information, but he still ducked answering the challenge.

Joe, you have my cell, my email, I’m always willing to speak with you https://t.co/dJDzJMxBwi

— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 17, 2023

Rogan explained he challenged him because he quoted the Vice article,

This is a non answer. I challenged you publicly because you publicly quote tweeted and agreed with that dogshit vice article. If you’re really serious about what you stand for, you now have a massive opportunity for a debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion… https://t.co/g1FGalC0Ym

— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 17, 2023

Warning for language:

This is a non answer. I challenged you publicly because you publicly quote tweeted and agreed with that dogshit vice article. If you’re really serious about what you stand for, you now have a massive opportunity for a debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion like this has ever had. If you think someone else is better qualified, suggest that person.

Rogan also noted that he’d seen the original response from Hotez that demanded $50 million for the challenge and an apology from RFK Jr. because Hotez knew that would never happen, so he wouldn’t have to debate.

By the way, @PeterHotez , I saw this tweet that you deleted.


pic.twitter.com/eS7ynkGqGO

— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 17, 2023

If Hotez believes what he’s saying is right and RFK Jr. is wrong, then why doesn’t he do it for free if he’s so concerned about what RFK Jr. is saying?

That’s when Musk laid out Hotez.

He’s afraid of a public debate, because he knows he’s wrong

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 17, 2023

Hotez said he was happy to come on and clear the air.

I’m happy to come on and clear the air. I respect you and your show. I don’t want an adversarial relationship, I think we can work well together

— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 18, 2023

Rogan made it clear that Hotez was just offering to come in and talk on his show, not debate. Then Rogan pointed out that even as Hotez was backpedaling and trying to play nice, he claimed in May that Rogan was part of a neo-fascist coalition involving Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, and RFK Jr. Talk about conspiracy theories.


To those misunderstanding what he’s saying, he’s NOT agreeing to debate @RobertKennedyJr. He’s just offering to come on my show by himself.

— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 18, 2023

Notice the “I hope Biden is preparing” in that May tweet from Hotez. To do what? Shut down speech? Go after people who disagree with him? Unfortunately, the “neofascist coalition” here is the most dangerous conspiracy of all: that of no conspiracy, when many think the same thing without colluding because they see the evidence before their eyes. And all of them support free speech and are willing to stand by what they believe.

Game, set, and match to Rogan with that last response, nailing Hotez for saying one thing to his face while writing something else about him behind his back.

Extra fun from Rogan dealing with the expert, Tom Nichols.

That would be a great suggestion if you could assure that the industry you were representing wasn’t completely captured by heartless monsters who have a history of some of the biggest criminal fines in human history because their deception has cost hundreds of thousands of people… https://t.co/fVlPdwCWrq

— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 18, 2023

Then Elon Musk finished off Hotez too.

First of all, I am generally pro vaccine. I have been vaccinated against pretty much everything, as have my kids.

Second, I think there is tremendous promise in synthetic mRNA. It is like medicine going from analog to digital.

That said, the world obviously went crazy with…


pic.twitter.com/lQkqY8uvgT

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 18, 2023

At last report, this was the money being offered for the debate:

💰 The Peter Hotez vs. RFK Jr Charity Debate Pot Is Up To $860,000!!

Please add any other contributions I missed to the comments

a) $100k – @joerogan
b) $150k – @BillAckman
c) $100k – @RubinReport
d) $100k – @patrickbetdavid
e) $100k – @stkirsch
f) $50k – @jason_howerton

— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) June 18, 2023

The point here is if you believe what you say, stand by it. Don’t try to shut down speech; add more speech, and be willing to debate. And no, everyone who doesn’t agree with you isn’t a “neo-fascist,” particularly when they’re allowing you to make your points. Finally, what fun Twitter 2.0 can be when it allows speech like this.



TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; covid; covidstooges; debate; elonmusk; florida; joerogan; musk; nevertrumpers; obamacare; peterhotez; rfkjr; robertfkennedyjr; rondesantis; tesla; twitter; vaccine; vaccinemandates
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To: SeekAndFind; ransomnote; bitt; Melian

Scientists Discover DNA contamination in mRNA shots

The Vax-Gene Files: An Accidental Discovery

In 1928 scientist Alexander Fleming returned to his laboratory after a 2-week holiday. A petri dish of bacteria accidentally left on the lab bench, somehow became cross-contaminated with Penicillium notatum mould. Fleming noticed the mould inhibited the growth of the bacteria. This accidental discovery marked the dawn of the antibiotic era and a turning point in medical, and perhaps human history.

Recently, another accidental discovery has scientists wondering whether we have turned another corner in history.

The story begins with Kevin McKernan, a scientist with 25 years experience in the genomic field and a leading expert in sequencing methods for DNA and RNA. He has worked on the Human Genome Project and more recently in medicinal genomics involving DNA sequencing.

In the process of trying to sort out a sequencing problem, McKernan used anonymously sent, Pfizer and Moderna Covid-19 bivalent vaccines to act as mRNA controls.

‘Somebody sent me these thinking, this is the perfect control… It should be pure. So, if you get this to work, you’ll sort out your mRNA sequencing problems,’ McKernan explains in a recent interview. ‘They were right about that. It did sort out our problems. But what we discovered in the process is that they weren’t pure mRNA. They actually had a lot of DNA in the background.’

McKernan was shocked, ‘It’s not what we were looking for… I had this hunch that the new modified nucleotides they have in the mRNA may have a higher error rate, and therefore we would see more mistakes in the mRNA. So, I knew we would have to sequence like a millionfold deep… over and over again to find these mistakes. When we did that DNA popped up and I thought “Oh, that’s a bigger problem. We have to focus on that.” … I kind of went into panic mode, realizing that I didn’t budget any time to look into this, and the world has to know about it.’

Let’s pause here and look at what we’re told about the Covid-19 mRNA injections. We’re assured:

• The injections are safe. Meanwhile, adverse event reporting systems around the world record previously unseen rates of adverse events and injuries;
• The injections are effective. We would ask: Effective for what? Not stopping transmission. We’re not sure about preventing serious illness either evidenced by recent data and New South Wales Health reports which show a disproportionate number of hospital and ICU admissions amongst the vaccinated.
• The injection materials stay at the injection site. Recently released documents obtained under FOI show the lipid nanoparticles become widely distributed – notably to the liver, spleen, adrenal glands, ovaries, and testes;
• The injections won’t change your DNA.

more here...

https://brownstone.org/articles/vax-gene-files-accidental-discovery/


61 posted on 06/19/2023 10:03:05 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; SeekAndFind; ransomnote; bitt; Melian

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o, the Pfizer and Moderna vials of bivalent vaccine that McKernan tested were contaminated with DNA. DNA encoding the spike gene and potentially capable of inserting into the genome of an organism.

The question is, does this DNA have the potential to become part of the genome of a human organism and if so what might be the consequences? This would have required looking at ‘genotoxicity,’ something Australia’s TGA says the (Pfizer) injections were not tested for, and the TGA did not ask for.

In case you are wondering, there are strict guidelines about DNA contamination levels in mRNA products. The European Medicines Agency (EMA) and FDA stated limits are 330 nanograms of DNA per milligram of RNA. In Australia, the TGA says it should be no more than 10 nanograms per dose.

(It’s unclear how these limits were decided. Personally, we’d be hoping for zero DNA in our mRNA injections.)

This means that DNA should not be more than 0.033 per cent of the total nucleic acids in the dose. But McKernan’s analysis demonstrated DNA contamination of up to 35 percent in the bivalent injection samples. This is up to 1,000 times higher than deemed to be ‘acceptable’ by the regulating authorities.

Next, McKernan analysed the monovalent (earlier) injections. The Pfizer monovalent injections were also found to be contaminated with DNA, though not as much. The levels of DNA in the Pfizer monovalent injections were 18-70 times higher than the EMA limit.

So, what happens now?

These results are in the process of being further verified by the scientific community....


62 posted on 06/19/2023 10:03:56 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/vax-pushing-debate-dodger-linked-chimeric-cronavirus-creation-wuhan

“Meanwhile, Dr. Pierre Kory provided evidence that Hotez is linked to Covid-19 Gain-of-Function research, citing information from the US Right to Know.

Hotez’s own 2012 to 2017 NIH grant for the development of a SARS vaccine had the stated aim of responding to any “accidental release from a laboratory,” in addition to a possible zoonotic spillover of the virus.

As part of his NIH grant, Hotez subcontracted funding for research on combined or “chimeric” coronaviruses, a scientific paper shows. Hotez’s grant underwrote two of Shi’s collaborators on the project. [Shi headed the Wuhan lab’s coronavirus modification project].

In the 2017 paper co-funded by Hotez, Shi and her colleagues generated a recombinant virus from two SARS-related coronaviruses: “rWIV1-SHC014S.” It’s not clear whether the paper co-funded by Hotez should have been stopped under a temporary “pause” on gain-of-function work before 2017.”


63 posted on 06/19/2023 10:38:34 AM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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64 posted on 06/19/2023 10:51:55 AM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=40%>)
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To: eyeamok

Shades of Clint Eastwood too... Then again Elon and Joe Rogan should be able to shame him into standing up for his beliefs rather than pussy footing around forever in his MSNBC safe spot.


65 posted on 06/19/2023 12:16:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (Black dem thugs, white liberal 'elites', sexual weirdos -- democrat's team against the rest of us)
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Sick humor??? No, just out-an-out serial liars.

Peter Hotez - Vaccine Expert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj6-QDVYbv8

Check comments below the video:

“This is genius. The editing is funny and telling of how these “experts” are no different than infomercial salesmen, down to the same pitch lines and fear tactics. “

“This video is so well done it mirrors the absurdity of this whole debacle. That guy should be sentenced to life in prison for the widespread damage he’s caused.”


66 posted on 06/20/2023 7:31:39 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: grey_whiskers; ransomnote; metmom; ExTexasRedhead

Great info, gw.

So, what MANY of us warned about with these horrid $hots, and, we were much maligned for, by the resident, paid $hot $hills, has now come full circle TRUTH.


67 posted on 06/20/2023 7:54:50 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: eyeamok; ExTexasRedhead

PUT UP AN EMPTY CHAIR and Have the Debate anyway


Great idea.

And, roll the tapes, of this PharmaHack, Hotez, running his yap pu$hing these dangerous $hots…even to adolescents!!

The vid at extexas’ link would be a good one to use…

https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4161787/posts?page=66#66

Whoever put that one together is genius.


68 posted on 06/20/2023 8:01:10 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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