Posted on 06/18/2023 11:28:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I have to admit that while there are likely many things that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and I would disagree on, I do like his willingness to challenge the democratic orthodoxy and not be quiet about it. For that “crime,” he is not liked by the powers that be. I think the Biden team is a little bit scared of him, which is one of the reasons they don’t want to have a debate with him. He’s got the Kennedy name, he’s a lightning rod, and he’s about ten times smarter than Joe, with the ability to put together a coherent sentence.
RFK Jr. recently appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast. We covered how he thought his uncle may have been killed by the CIA. But he also spoke about vaccinations, and that ticked off vaccine scientist Peter Hotez, who didn’t like the fact that Rogan had Kennedy on to spread vaccine “misinformation,” and he tweeted a story that attacked Spotify for running the interview.
Spotify Has Stopped Even Sort of Trying to Stem Joe Rogan’s Vaccine Misinformation. It’s really true @annamerlan just awful. And from all the online attacks I’m receiving after this absurd podcast, it’s clear many actually believe this nonsense.
https://t.co/GwIFsOODC2— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 17, 2023
That’s when Joe Rogan threw down the gauntlet offering Hotez, who he’s had on his show, $100,000 to come on the podcast and debate RFK Jr., with no time limit.
Peter, if you claim what RFKjr is saying is “misinformation” I am offering you $100,000.00 to the charity of your choice if you’re willing to debate him on my show with no time limit. https://t.co/m0HxYek0GX
— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 17, 2023
RFK Jr. immediately agreed. He’s shown he’s willing to debate what he thinks.
Peter. Let’s finally have the respectful,congenial,informative debate that the American people deserve.
— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) June 17, 2023
Elon Musk was all for the battle.
🔥🔥
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 17, 2023
Hotez responded that Rogan had his contact information, but he still ducked answering the challenge.
Joe, you have my cell, my email, I’m always willing to speak with you https://t.co/dJDzJMxBwi
— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 17, 2023
Rogan explained he challenged him because he quoted the Vice article,
This is a non answer. I challenged you publicly because you publicly quote tweeted and agreed with that dogshit vice article. If you’re really serious about what you stand for, you now have a massive opportunity for a debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion… https://t.co/g1FGalC0Ym
— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 17, 2023
Warning for language:
This is a non answer. I challenged you publicly because you publicly quote tweeted and agreed with that dogshit vice article. If you’re really serious about what you stand for, you now have a massive opportunity for a debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion like this has ever had. If you think someone else is better qualified, suggest that person.
Rogan also noted that he’d seen the original response from Hotez that demanded $50 million for the challenge and an apology from RFK Jr. because Hotez knew that would never happen, so he wouldn’t have to debate.
By the way, @PeterHotez , I saw this tweet that you deleted.
pic.twitter.com/eS7ynkGqGO— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 17, 2023
If Hotez believes what he’s saying is right and RFK Jr. is wrong, then why doesn’t he do it for free if he’s so concerned about what RFK Jr. is saying?
That’s when Musk laid out Hotez.
He’s afraid of a public debate, because he knows he’s wrong
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 17, 2023
Hotez said he was happy to come on and clear the air.
I’m happy to come on and clear the air. I respect you and your show. I don’t want an adversarial relationship, I think we can work well together
— Prof Peter Hotez MD PhD (@PeterHotez) June 18, 2023
Rogan made it clear that Hotez was just offering to come in and talk on his show, not debate. Then Rogan pointed out that even as Hotez was backpedaling and trying to play nice, he claimed in May that Rogan was part of a neo-fascist coalition involving Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, and RFK Jr. Talk about conspiracy theories.
To those misunderstanding what he’s saying, he’s NOT agreeing to debate @RobertKennedyJr. He’s just offering to come on my show by himself.
— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 18, 2023
Notice the “I hope Biden is preparing” in that May tweet from Hotez. To do what? Shut down speech? Go after people who disagree with him? Unfortunately, the “neofascist coalition” here is the most dangerous conspiracy of all: that of no conspiracy, when many think the same thing without colluding because they see the evidence before their eyes. And all of them support free speech and are willing to stand by what they believe.
Game, set, and match to Rogan with that last response, nailing Hotez for saying one thing to his face while writing something else about him behind his back.
Extra fun from Rogan dealing with the expert, Tom Nichols.
That would be a great suggestion if you could assure that the industry you were representing wasn’t completely captured by heartless monsters who have a history of some of the biggest criminal fines in human history because their deception has cost hundreds of thousands of people… https://t.co/fVlPdwCWrq
— Joe Rogan (@joerogan) June 18, 2023
Then Elon Musk finished off Hotez too.
First of all, I am generally pro vaccine. I have been vaccinated against pretty much everything, as have my kids.
Second, I think there is tremendous promise in synthetic mRNA. It is like medicine going from analog to digital.
That said, the world obviously went crazy with…
pic.twitter.com/lQkqY8uvgT— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 18, 2023
At last report, this was the money being offered for the debate:
💰 The Peter Hotez vs. RFK Jr Charity Debate Pot Is Up To $860,000!!
Please add any other contributions I missed to the comments
a) $100k – @joerogan
b) $150k – @BillAckman
c) $100k – @RubinReport
d) $100k – @patrickbetdavid
e) $100k – @stkirsch
f) $50k – @jason_howerton…— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) June 18, 2023
“While I disagree with his support of climate change, that is the least of our worries.”
Climate change is not about the climate. It is about destroying the US economy. Big pharma is a nothing-burger compared.
Besides he as stated vaccines/big pharma is not a priority.
We certainly agree that climate change is about control and the destruction of our economy. Pandemics are about control of us as an individual and our body and is even worse. That so-called threat stirs up the masses/sheep into hysterics and immediate action -- unlike climate change. Remember COVID?
You seem to think I like everything about RFK. I don't. But put all of his positions on a scale vs a Trump or Biden and the scale tilts to RFK for me -- should DeSantil not make the cut.
You are not reviled, you are a Freeptard. Period.
“You seem to think I like everything about RFK.”
I never posted anything of the sort. I just posted what RFK Jr is like.
Now Peter Whoretez has gone crying to nothing less than Forbes that he is being harassed.
"Hotez told his Twitter followers Sunday that the Houston resident “was stalked in front of my home by a couple of antivaxers taunting me to debate RFKJr” — less than 24 hours after the initial Twitter argument began.
Minutes later, a Twitter personality posted a video that appeared to show himself and another person shouting questions at Hotez outside a home, asking why Hotez wasn’t going to debate Kennedy and if the vaccine scientist believes “vaccine injuries” are real (it’s unclear whether the video corresponds to the incident Hotez mentioned)."
…a Rothschild drone.
“…a Rothschild drone.”
Trump?
Refer to RFK Jrs recent podcast with Jordan Peterson where he said exactly the same thing: forces that are pushing climate change are about control. RFK said he doesn’t espouse that motive of climate change as a control mechanism.
RFK appears to be what in 2023 would be considered a centrist. And maybe that’s exactly what we need to prevent this country from tearing itself apart. Every action by the extreme left has an equal and opposite reaction from the right, and vice versa. And it just escalates like road rage. I like the idea of having a centrist, someone who nobody is really happy with but allows all Americans to feel like they have a place at this table. Because everyone does even libtards. I just don’t want any activist in any form of government from the right or the left.
Musk.
Look at Musk’s bio. South Africa, family wealthy. Uni in Canada. Suddenly he has a company worth Billions. PayPal. Who got to decide that company was worth Billions? Rothschilds. Just l Ike Bill Gates. How do you think Gates won the Netscape case? Legally he should have lost.
“Who got to decide that company was worth Billions? Rothschilds.”
No. The shareholders.
Seriously? You still believe that? LOL.
“Who got to decide that company was worth Billions? Rothschilds. Just l Ike Bill Gates. How do you think Gates won the Netscape case?”
Who decided Netscape was worth billions?
Rothschilds?
“How do you think Gates won the Netscape case? Legally he should have lost.”
Er, Microsoft lost the anti-trust case.
So Netscape has been a thriving entity all along?
I sure hope you're right. It would be good to have choices. For me, it's DeSantis and RFK, in that order, if the election was held today. I'm not sure I have had a choice like this in my lifetime of voting (since 60s).
Other than his voice, RFK is well-spoken, and his response to hard questions is good. That is, if it is a topic he is not current on, he says that but expresses a conceptual view of the subject in a well-spoken manner.
He sure knows a little about big pharma and vaccines, and I can understand why the vax enthusiasts do not want to debate him. He would roll over them like a steamroller.
Anyway, again, I hope you are right, and your view makes sense.
“Climate change is not about the climate. It is about destroying the US economy.”
That’s a side-effect.
The ultimate goal is to deem humanity an invasive species in need of massive culling.
“Doctor Peter Hotez” can be arranged to spell
The rot crept...oozed.
Also “Protected Zero Tho’ “
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