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BBC: Climate change too important to be left to personal choice
Bombthrower.com ^ | 7 May, 2023 | MARK E. JEFTOVIC

Posted on 05/19/2023 7:37:50 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Everyone will have to ratchet down their standard of living by over 75%

A recent piece in BBC’s “Future World” series on its surface celebrates someone who choose to live an “ultra low carbon lifestyle”. They made a conscious and individual decision to bring their own personal carbon footprint down below 2 metric tonnes per year.

Throughout the developed world, per capita carbon output ranges from 4.46 (France) to Canada being the highest at 15.43.

Via GlobalEconomy.com

The article talks about the personal challenges around living an ultra-low carbon lifestyle. According to the piece, 2 tonnes/year is also about half the output of a single gas powered car in the US, so the first step for any Americans (or Canadians) wanting to do this, they would have to start by ditching their cars.

Other behaviours which move the needle would be: eating a plant based diet, buying green energy and forgoing one transatlantic round-trip per year.

In terms of what level of personal CO2 emissions gets the job done “for the climate”, estimates vary. While the 2 tonne number was somewhat arbitrary, there are other climate focused think tanks that feel the number has to be 1.4 tonnes of C02 per person by 2040 and 0.7 by 2050.

The Fallacy of per-capita output

Going back to Canada’s “excessive” carbon footprint – if we look at a metric that really means anything – total CO2 output – Canada is basically a rounding error to the world’s largest emitter, China.

At an average annual temperature at -4 to -5 celsius, Canada is also the coldest G7 nation. So perhaps we can forgive the Canucks for not wanting to freeze to death – even if it means emitting Co2 for heat. Also worth noting that far more humans are killed each year from being cold (17.7 million per year, on average) than from being too warm (2.2 million per year), roughly 8X.

Here’s the thing: everybody has to comply

While the overall timbre of the piece lauds the story’s protagonist (a communications officer at a climate non-profit) over her decision to make this lifestyle choice, sprinkled throughout are casual, back-handed references at where all this is going...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: globalwarminghoax; greenenergy
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-- George Orwell, 1984

(emphasis added)

21 posted on 05/19/2023 7:58:39 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: MtnClimber

God’s been taking care of climate since the beginning of time. Now all of a sudden...we’re in charge because a small group believes we can change the climate??


22 posted on 05/19/2023 7:58:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: MtnClimber

I’m sure the BBC and all it’s employees are on a plant based diet and wait a second I don’t see China , Russia and India on that list ?


23 posted on 05/19/2023 7:59:02 AM PDT by butlerweave
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"BBC: Climate change too important to be left to personal choice"

Perhaps the BBC will be the first to explain why explain why greenhouse gasses like methane and CO2 fail to hold the heat down under the shadow of a midday solar eclipse of an otherwise warm sunny day.


24 posted on 05/19/2023 8:03:17 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: MtnClimber

What a total bunch of crap. The leaders still get their private jets and limos but everybody else has to drive Flintstone cars. That’s because they are more equal than everybody else.


25 posted on 05/19/2023 8:05:21 AM PDT by George J. Jetso
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To: MtnClimber

Yes, the climate changes; every winter; spring; summer; and fall. But the climate change that those “greenies” are talking about is nothing but a bunch of BS and a way to strip money away from hard working people.


26 posted on 05/19/2023 8:06:08 AM PDT by kagnew
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To: MtnClimber

BBC: Our fantasies which we can’t defend will not be debated!


27 posted on 05/19/2023 8:08:18 AM PDT by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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--- "...too important to be left to personal choice...."

No personal choice? Then no liberty?

If the BBC can opine in this fashion, and declare Canada, as an example, should " ratchet down their standard of living by over 75%," then it stands to reason that the BBC should "ratchet down" as well. But it won't.

The professional political class in government as in media will never allow themselves to be governed by the diktats they issue to others.

28 posted on 05/19/2023 8:11:57 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: MtnClimber

the earth’s weather is a DIRECT result of the Sun’s activity. Control the solar activity in order to control the earth’s temperature/weather. End of story!


29 posted on 05/19/2023 8:12:11 AM PDT by drypowder
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After giving this careful consideration, I have come to the conclusion that certain sacrifices in our personal lives will have to be made. I know a lot of this will be tough stuff, but we have no choice. Its for the Earth. Save the Earth.

1. All private jets are hereby banned. We’ll just have to settle for first class. Look, Look, I know. I don’t like having to rub elbows with the hoi polloi anymore than you do. Still, at least the peasants will have to see our superior accommodations as they trudge back to economy class.

2. All yachts are hereby banned. We will have to settle for mere large boats, maybe even houseboats, but cheer up. We can still get something sleek and fast to show off our great wealth to the lowly peons out on the water.

3. Each person to be put on a strict 3000 square feet of heated/air conditioned living space per person. I know that’s....I can hardly say it......only about enough space for a 4 or 5 bedroom house each or even (gulp) a 2-3 bedroom house plus a small weekend home per person and that will mean giving up our multiple giant energy sucking mansions or limiting ourselves to a mere 2 properties each but at least we’ll still be able to have maids and cooks and the like. I mean, its not like we will have to live like animals and do our own cooking and cleaning.


30 posted on 05/19/2023 8:23:05 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: MtnClimber

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is bombarding our planet with meatballs, but they are so tiny you can’t see them. They are waist deep now but soon will be over our heads. The End


31 posted on 05/19/2023 8:25:56 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (May God reign.)
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To: albie

Force will be the only thing to put an end to this climate change BS.


32 posted on 05/19/2023 8:44:50 AM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: MtnClimber

The bbc is saying exactly what crazy Charlie is telling them to say.


33 posted on 05/19/2023 9:01:32 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: MtnClimber

Anti-carbon is anti-life & Satanic. Western populations will embrace this as they are eliminated.


34 posted on 05/19/2023 9:05:38 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: MtnClimber

Not quite honest yet. The reality has always been that they want to erase human liberty full stop. Any and all real and contrived crises and issues are just a means to that end. They prefer real ones and are very good at manufacturing them, but plain old bald lies like global warming/cooling/change are ok by them as long as they get the job done.


35 posted on 05/19/2023 9:19:06 AM PDT by No.6
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To: butlerweave

Also, agriculture puts out around double the CO2.


36 posted on 05/19/2023 9:27:59 AM PDT by ManardG
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My family and I were in London on the UK’s hottest day in recorded history. The evening before and morning of the BBC anchors were telling people “this is Armageddon, roads are going to melt, car tires are going to explode, and train tracks are going to buckle”. We were appalled. Of course, being from South Carolina we were used to hot, humid weather. So we grabbed some water bottles and went walking around- it was actually a lot nicer than in SC because there was no humidity. People in the few stores that were open were shocked we were walking around.


37 posted on 05/19/2023 9:59:49 AM PDT by MissEdie (Be the Light in Someone's Darkness.)
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To: MtnClimber

We should get carbon credits for all the homeless people who don’t have electric or gas service. Or water sewer garbage service. Or cable TV. The more homeless we get, the less carbon we make. Also we should get carbon credits for all the immigrants who live 10 to 20 people in a house that used to have 5 of the people who are now homeless. The higher population density should produce carbon savings based on more people sharing the same amount of energy to keep the house warm or cool. It’s not a 1 to 1 improvement but it drives the average down. And maybe we can get carbon credits for all the recycling that homeless people do. They recycle a lot of idle shopping carts and kids’ bicycles left lying around, as well as a lot of perfectly good stuff that people put in their trash cans. I just think we need some credit for all the sacrifices.


38 posted on 05/19/2023 10:19:10 AM PDT by webheart
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I have already not taken a transatlantic flight per year for all but three of the last 50 years. I have only been in an airplane going anywhere 3 times since 1972. Do we get rollover credit for unused flights?


39 posted on 05/19/2023 10:22:31 AM PDT by webheart
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Why do we have to give up cars completely? What about not driving as much? I walk whenever I can. My vacations are backpacking trips so I don’t drive for 8 days. We carpool as much as possible. I use an electric lawnmower and I am actually removing a couple hundred square feet of lawn to replace with a desert garden. We have solar panels on the roof. One of our cars is electric. We recycle. I eat plants in the form of salad. And bread.


40 posted on 05/19/2023 10:30:01 AM PDT by webheart
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