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I've flown on KC-135's many, many times. Hot above, cold below, and reeking of kerosene. Not very comfortable!

It took some USAF NCOs reporting on their jobs on Face Book to get this noticed.

Oh, this also affects Rivet Joint aircraft.

1 posted on 03/01/2023 11:31:51 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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2 posted on 03/01/2023 11:35:53 AM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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50-year old 707s with very high flight-hours. What could go wrong?


3 posted on 03/01/2023 11:37:02 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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They’re losing their asses


4 posted on 03/01/2023 11:42:28 AM PST by PGR88
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Tails might fall off? Reminds me of an old Jimmy Stewart movie in which an eccentric metallurgist (Stewart) is mocked when his predictions of catastrophic failures of airplane tails fails to materialize - until it does (fortunately, while the plane is still on the ground) and he is vindicated.


5 posted on 03/01/2023 11:44:21 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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Note: Fly this aircraft WITH the COMPLETE TAIL ASSEMBLY INTACT. REQUIRED.


7 posted on 03/01/2023 11:48:55 AM PST by GaltAdonis
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I was a crew chief on the 135. Many YEARS AGO, at Pease AFB and then Castle AFB. Great aircraft. Though I came to absolutely loathe the engine cowlings, when they were fitted with the J-57 engines.

No tail problems that I was aware of back then.


8 posted on 03/01/2023 11:50:08 AM PST by cld51860 (We’re doomed.)
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Hmm...that’s a very important part, isn’t it?


9 posted on 03/01/2023 11:51:09 AM PST by Billthedrill
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I've flown on KC-135's many, many times. Hot above, cold below, and reeking of kerosene. Not very comfortable!

One time we flew from Elmendorf to Ramstein in a KC-135 and it was the most miserable flight I've ever been on. Hot above and bitter freezing cold below, as we were flying over the pole. Fortunately it was a one-time deal where there was a crew swapout while our own aircraft remained at Ramstein.

11 posted on 03/01/2023 11:54:44 AM PST by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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Thought the KC-135’s were being phased out by the C-17’s.


12 posted on 03/01/2023 11:57:57 AM PST by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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TCTO time - ugh.

Mid shift used to have some personnel (not me!) head over to a Phase Dock and sleep in the “hammock” netting in the 135. Always looked uncomfortable to me.


15 posted on 03/01/2023 12:03:00 PM PST by Fury
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I don't know what the problem is...here's a picture of a B-52 that lost its tail:

Details:

On Jan. 10, 1964, a B-52H flown by Boeing civilian test pilot Chuck Fisher and his three man crew lost its tail at about 14,000 ft over northern New Mexico’s Sangre de Christo Mountains.

Six hours later, with support from the ground, Fisher successfully performed the first and only Stratofortress‘s tailless landing!

16 posted on 03/01/2023 12:11:26 PM PST by FtrPilot
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I was on a Griffiss tanker at Offutt, taxiing for takeoff, when the left inboard caught fire. Couldn’t bring the pax stand out because of the fire so all 45 of us plus crew had to shimmy down the crew ladder in the cockpit and run 500 yards away in case she cooked off. Fun times.


19 posted on 03/01/2023 12:17:07 PM PST by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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To: markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Ping.


24 posted on 03/01/2023 12:39:41 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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> ... the entire vertical stabilizer to “depart the aircraft,” ...

"Elvis has left the building."

25 posted on 03/01/2023 12:45:51 PM PST by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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That reminds me of this:
Clarke and Dawe-”The Front Fell Off”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM


26 posted on 03/01/2023 12:48:41 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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Interesting, usually it’s the US Navy that has this problem


30 posted on 03/01/2023 12:59:00 PM PST by dila813
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I work at a tanker squadron, and yes, this report is real. Many of our planes are being grounded except for a one way trip to Oklahoma to get the pins replaced.


32 posted on 03/01/2023 1:11:04 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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By the end of talyObidens regime our military will be down to rocks and carrier pigeons with diahreah.


34 posted on 03/01/2023 1:15:05 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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Where’s Jimmy Stewart when you need him?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Highway_in_the_Sky


35 posted on 03/01/2023 1:31:13 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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....also have a number of hours as a passenger in various KC-135s....the last one I flew in just a few years ago had a 1957 federal fiscal year tail number....now, that’s gettin’ on in years...!!!


36 posted on 03/01/2023 1:35:19 PM PST by TokarevM57
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