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UPDATE – So, You Did Not Take the COVID-19 Shot, Why Not?January 14, 2023 | Sundance | 3,434 Comments
Conservative TreeHouse ^ | 1/14/2023 | sundance

Posted on 01/15/2023 6:37:23 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter

I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.

First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.

In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.

The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.

In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.

There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.

If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.

Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.

I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.

Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.

Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.

Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.

As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.

Love to all,

Sundance

Reader feedback request. I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.

Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?

With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.

If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?

If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.

I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.


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To: Uncle Miltie
“Long Term Impacts” are still unknown.

I think it's morphed to "Sudden and Unexpected", now.

141 posted on 01/15/2023 2:17:12 PM PST by occamrzr06
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To: occamrzr06

“””I think it’s morphed to “Sudden and Unexpected”, now.”””


What I find interesting is that no government official seems interested in finding out the details of why a person died ‘suddenly and unexpected’.

I guess if the medical examiners in each county do not perform an autopsy on the ‘suddenly and unexpectedly’ dead person, then the ‘powers-that-be’ can claim there is no linkage between the covid vaxx and a death.

Why is it that we keep reading news stories about people who have suddenly died and that is the end of the story. Never is there a mention that an autopsy being performed to determine cause of the sudden death.


142 posted on 01/15/2023 2:43:08 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I see Peter McCullough was asking the same question yesterday-—

“””Autopsy Series after COVID-19 Vaccination
Sudden Cardiac Death Leads all Fatal Diagnoses

Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH™
Jan 14
By Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH

Almost everyday in the news is another reported case of sudden, unexpected cardiac death. The vaccination status is carefully concealed in the report and any mention of past SARS-CoV-2 immunization appears to be scrubbed from the internet. Families maintain an airtight silence on a simple medical query—did they take a COVID-19 vaccine? Yes or No? Prior to COVID-19 vaccination, the usual causes of death were almost always known antemortem, and were roughly 40% cardiovascular, 40% cancer, and 20% other causes. Chaves and colleagues have shown these proportions have been dramatically shifted to sudden cardiac death.

In a series of 121 deaths primarily after the whole virus CoronaVac (Sinovac) injection, 57% were classified as sudden cardiac death and the pathologies included myocardial infarction, aortic dissection, and in few cases with no cardiac pathology assumed primary arrhythmic death. Pulmonary embolism, another accepted complication comprised 21% of the cases. Despite the authors claim of “no association,” its my interpretation of the data that 78% of the deaths could be directly attributed to a known mechanism of COVID-19 vaccination. This is very consistent with the recent report from Schwab et al from Germany whose data revealed 71% of deaths within 20 days of vaccination occurred in the context of acute problems known to be caused by the vaccines.

When autopsies done by separate teams in different countries arrive at similar findings, we have external consistency. This is one of many criteria that are used in determining scientific validity. The assertion that COVID-19 vaccines are causing death is increasingly supported in the peer-reviewed literature.


143 posted on 01/15/2023 3:05:06 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
cause of the sudden death

Doesn't fit the narrative they want.

144 posted on 01/15/2023 3:39:18 PM PST by occamrzr06
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To: Deaf and Discerning
The normal “7 to 10” day wait to design a proper vaccine has not occurred yet.

Sorry - I meant "7 to 10" YEAR wait

145 posted on 01/15/2023 3:39:43 PM PST by Deaf and Discerning
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Good article thanks. I may be whacked, but with all the sudden deaths increasing in frequency, the powers to be will have to acknowledge the dangers of the vax and “ turn” to find a “ fix” for those infected with the MRNA. God’s Mercy, Grace?

That said, I did not take the clot shots because I ran to God ( not man) for his discernment. In addition, before the vaxes even came out, my 90 year old spirit filled mother told me “ When the shots come out, do NOT take them”.

Very, very glad that the good Lord gave me the gift of discernment. Prepare for Revival !


146 posted on 01/15/2023 3:59:24 PM PST by delta7
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To: Deaf and Discerning

“7 to 10” YEAR wait”

Yup—I do the waiting the “scientists” and “experts” refuse to do.

I “follow” way behind “the science”—a decade behind!


147 posted on 01/15/2023 4:04:22 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Not in a high risk group - had a lot of questions that no one in the corporate media was asking. Even with a sophmoric understanding my family did not fall for this guano.

Much more could be said, but it is just that simple.


148 posted on 01/15/2023 4:53:08 PM PST by week 71
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Two reasons stood out for me.

First: They might not know what they are doing.
Second: The might know exactly what they are doing.


149 posted on 01/15/2023 5:28:58 PM PST by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I was in an allegedly high risk group. I have cancer, controlled high blood pressure, lower level diabetes, and somewhat overweight from androgen deprivation therapy for metastatic cancer.

My wife has at least four autoimmune disorders.

We both got COVID-19 in early September, 2020. .y wife takes hydroxychloriquine for one of her disorders. I found a way to get the hydroxychloriquine cocktail of drugs. Mt wife’s case was very mild. In my case, I tested negative just five days after being diagnosed.

I read the real science. The one fact I relied on .ire than anything was the report of a French doctor who treated over 2,700 patients with the hydroxychloriquine cocktail and everyone of them tested negative within 5-6days.


150 posted on 01/15/2023 6:03:20 PM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Bump


151 posted on 01/15/2023 7:52:36 PM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan? (It's a failed virus but a hugely successful propaganda campaign.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

bump to read later.


152 posted on 01/15/2023 7:55:39 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

https://www.tiktok.com/@seanthesheepman/video/7106463815155371270
not a sheep


153 posted on 01/15/2023 8:26:19 PM PST by rolling_stone (cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war )
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I was just deeply distrustful. It just seemed to rushed at first to be safe. And then it came out that COVID wasn’t that bad comparatively unless maybe you had other things wrong. I was pretty healthy so I thought, well I would rather deal with Covid. Then it became a matter of principle because they started to essentially mandate it for gatherings.


154 posted on 01/15/2023 8:32:35 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Does anyone here take Zinc and still caught COVID?

For years I have taken Calcium Citrate that also contains Zinc, Vitamin D, and Magnesium. When the fake pandemic hit I started popping the Zycam lozenges four times per day.

I have yet to get the flu of any type.

155 posted on 01/15/2023 8:45:45 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
"Beware of geeks, bearing gifts"


156 posted on 01/16/2023 3:45:42 AM PST by Theophilus (It's fake and defective)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

“World economic touts having “write level” permission to edit your genes and how the COVID vaccine was an “engineered code” with messenger RNA.”

https://twitter.com/DRDuell/status/1615091436860448777


157 posted on 01/16/2023 6:06:42 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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