Posted on 11/12/2022 7:56:35 AM PST by SoConPubbie
On Thursday, Trump posted a lengthy message on Truth Social, nicknaming DeSantis “DeSanctimonious.” He diminished DeSantis’ handling of Covid and insisted that he is responsible for the Republican governor’s success. Trump said,
“Now that the midterms are over, and a success…
NewsCorp, which is Fox, the Wall Street Journal, and the no longer great New York Post (bring back Col!), is all in for Governor Ron DeSanctimonious, an average REPUBLICAN Governor with great Public Relations, who didn’t have to close up his State, but did, unlike other Republican Governors, whose overall numbers for a Republican, were just average – middle of the pack – including COVID, and who has the advantage of SUNSHINE, where people from badly run States up North would go no matter who the Governor was, just like I did!
Ron came to me in desperate shape in 2017 – he was politically dead, losing in a landslide to a very good Agriculture Commissioner, Adam Putnam, who was loaded up with cash and great poll numbers. Ron had low approval, bad polls, and no money, but he said that if I would Endorse him, he could win. I didn’t know Adam so I said, “Let’s give it a shot, Ron.” When I Endorsed him it was as though, to use a bad term, a nuclear weapon went off. Years later, they were the exact words that Adam Putnam used in describing Ron’s Endorsement. He said, “I went from having it made, with no competition, to immediately getting absolutely clobbered after your Endorsement.” I then got Ron by the “Star” of the Democrat Party, Andrew Gillum (who was later revealed to be a “Crack Head”), by having two massive Rallies with tens fo thousands of people at each one.
I also fixed his campaign, which had completely fallen apart. I was all in for Ron, and he beat Gillum, but after the Race, when votes were being stolen by the corrupt Election process in Broward County, and Ron was going down ten thousand votes a day, along with now-Senator Rick Scott, I sent in the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys, and the ballot theft immediately ended, jus prior to them running out of the votes necessary to win. I stopped his Election from being stolen. And now, Ron DeSanctimonious is playing games! The Fake News asks him if he’s going to run if President Trump runs, and he says, “I’m only focused on the Governor’s race, I’m not looking into the future.” Well, in terms of loyalty and class, that’s really not the right answer…
This is just like 2015 and 2016, a Media Assault (Colusion!), when Fox News fought me to the end until I won, and then they couldn’t have been nicer or more supportive. The Wall Street Journal loved Low Energy Jeb Bush, and a succession of other people as they rapidly disappeared from sight, finally falling in line with me after I easily knocked them out, one by one. We’re in exactly the same position now. They will keep coming after us, MAGA, but ultimately, we will win. Put America First and, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
On Friday morning, Trump posted about Youngkin, pointing out how much he helped the Virginia governor win the election, and how Youngkin “couldn’t have come close to winning” without his help.
“Young Kin (now that’s an interesting take. Sounds Chinese, doesn’t it?) in Virginia couldn’t have won without me. I Endorsed him, did a very big Trump Rally for him telephonically, got MAGA to Vote for him – or he couldn’t have come close to winning. But he knows that, and admits it. Besides, having a hard time with the Dems in Virginia – But he’ll get it done!”
It’s not just women. Men I know in RL, manly mature conservative men who have or do run businesses and been successful in their professions, are fed up with Trump, too, all former strong supporters of his.
Real grownup men know there is a time for fighting words and a time to keep one’s council. Grownup men know to give credit where it’s due. How to be a good manager and team player. They are man enough to take blame when they make a mistake or do something foolish.
In his own words, Trump is attacking two allies, two popular governors who just won elections. He’s demanding all credit for all wins, but refusing to take blame for any losses.
I don’t understand football all that well, so please forgive me any errors here, but he’s acting like a junior high quarterback who is enraged because the cute cheerleaders are shaking their pompoms for other team members who just completed a touchdown instead of giving him all the glory. So he attacks his team members — who have said nary a word against him — and demands all credit and attention for himself, while refusing to take responsibility for his own fumbles and unforced errors. It’s not a good look to other *men*.
Right. I don’t mean people necessarily flipping between Trump and someone else at this point in terms of preference. I’m talking more about those who may have thought “Trump or nobody”. There’s nobody running for the GOP nomination — other than the Cheney/Kinzinger types — for whom I would not vote in the general. Regardless of who I might prefer as my top choice.
Thanks. DeSantis could do that, but I also believe that he shouldn't have to be put on the defensive, since there's no proof he's done anything wrong yet. When politicians are attacked, they don't have to respond to every attack, the term as I'm sure you know is "taking the high road" and I think it is perfectly understandable fo him to do that, until any actual evidence of collusion is brought forth.
I've seen no confirmable evidence of what Baris said, and I have not referred to it here.
There's another old saying, that "the burden of proof is on the accuser" and so far there doesn't seem to be hard evidence whatsoever of collusion going on. Trump or his supporters, of which there are millions, should be obligated to provide at least some proof, before Trump's attack can be justified, in my opinion. And even then Trump's attacks should be more focused about what his concerns are, rather than just claiming things like DeSantis is "just an average Governor" which I don't think anyone believes.
Unfortunately I expect Trump and his supporters to keep attacking DeSantis with no concrete evidence, and DeSantis to just keep taking the high road. Who that is working out better for remains to be seen.
Succinct. I think Trump’s latest antics have made him unelectable in a national context. It’s almost as if he finally cracked after 6 years of relentless attacks.
Yes, and I wish you were advising him and he’d listen to you. But it’s not in his nature to listen to such advice.
Research the difference between a Political Action Committee and an individual....
Good comments—but there is more...
When you mentor someone you want them to succeed.
You support them in every way you can.
You cheer on their success, and take great pride in it.
You never try to remind people that you were the reason for their success.
Never.
It is inexcusable and unforgivable.
I’m voting for Trump.
In the coming 2024 election, the Presidency will be stolen again anyway.
Succinct is good and you did it well. Agree.
My turn to try for succinct: The saddest thing is, he may make it unlikely his movement will succeed. He may well tear it all down (see post #130).
… Goodbye lover. Ask McConnell for a job. I’m sure his office will give you some nice greetings.…
Lover, hardly. You’re not my type.
Retired. Don’t need a job
Liked what Trump accomplished. Now he should just STFU
v=s
People who get upset about primary noise need to grow a pair
It’s the primaries coming up there is going to be a lot of fighting is how it goes unless you have an incumbent president
Cat lady forum always hand wrings
Agree all the way. I cherish my mentors and am happy with and for and proud of those I have mentored, not because I “paid it forward” to them, but in their own right. Whatever I passed on to them was partly on loan from my own mentors, anyway, and they did well with it *themselves* and *should* have the credit.
But Trump is not the mentoring type. At least not when it comes to politics.
Yeah, no sh*t.
MAGA Inc. is Trump's Super PAC, the largest war chest in the GOP and he spent a whopping $8.4 million out of it. Trump also has the Save America PAC.
“What’s behind it?”
The first half hour of this explains a lot:
https://www.newsmaxtv.com/Shows/Greg-Kelly-Reports/vid/1_e6spm38w
thanks for the link ill check that out-
Your guess is as good as mine but in observation, when things dont make sense then it’s obvious that not all the facts are known. We’ve been played so many times that I find it’s best to be ready for anything. There’s a reason why God gave us 2 eyes, ears, nostrils, and nuts, yet only 1 mouth.
Gas price per gallon was about $2.30;
Inflation about 1.4%, mortgage rates were half of what they are now;
Unemployment was low before Covid and before Blue Governors shut everything
down and we were in the midst of a V-shape recovery until January 22, 2021;
Tax decrease; tax laws promoted small businesses as well as large;
US enjoyed energy independence - No Green Agenda, no war on energy, No Paris Treaty;
No war in Ukraine, no threat of nuclear war, NATO paid its way;
China was quiet and we were winning the trade war;
US companies were bringing home the jobs due to well executed tax treatments;
Peace in the Middle East aka Abraham Accords; US Embassy moved to Jerusalem; and Iran was isolated.
Got three non-left “I don't know what a woman is” Supreme Court Justices on the bench allowing Roe vs Wade to be overturned.
Who the heck can accomplish the above in four years while being impeached twice and investigated by Obama's Weaponized Agencies?
Gas price per gallon was about $2.30;
Inflation about 1.4%, mortgage rates were half of what they are now;
Unemployment was low before Covid and before Blue Governors shut everything
down and we were in the midst of a V-shape recovery until January 22, 2021;
Tax decrease; tax laws promoted small businesses as well as large;
US enjoyed energy independence - No Green Agenda, no war on energy, No Paris Treaty;
No war in Ukraine, no threat of nuclear war, NATO paid its way;
China was quiet and we were winning the trade war;
US companies were bringing home the jobs due to well executed tax treatments;
Peace in the Middle East aka Abraham Accords; US Embassy moved to Jerusalem; and Iran was isolated.
Got three non-left “I don't know what a woman is” Supreme Court Justices on the bench allowing Roe vs Wade to be overturned.
Who the heck can accomplish the above in four years while being impeached twice and investigated by Obama's Weaponized Agencies?
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