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The biggest reason Trump's attack on DeSantis was a mistake
Hot Air ^ | November 7, 2022 | DAVID STROM

Posted on 11/07/2022 5:35:18 AM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler
You lying #nevertrumps never learn do you?


81 posted on 11/07/2022 6:33:59 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: Timber Rattler
Seems to me that those are threads which merely point out some unpleasant truths.

Truth: A lot of Freepers are stupid with TDS fever.

82 posted on 11/07/2022 6:34:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Just mythoughts

? The ad was a remake on Paul Harvey’s So God made a farmer. It was no more mocking God than Rush saying talent on loan from God. It was a tip to Paul Harvey’s talent and really nothing to do with demeaning God. If anything, it casually acknowledges God as the creator of all things. I apologize in advance if you was being sarcastic, but that ad is not sacrilegious.


83 posted on 11/07/2022 6:35:38 AM PST by pghbjugop
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To: enumerated
I’m getting so tired of this Trump vs. DeSantis fake match up.

Then Trump should stop with the snark and snide remarks and name-calling.

84 posted on 11/07/2022 6:36:11 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Socon-Econ

“Trump’s personal attack on DeSantis reopened fading perceptions that he is mean and full of ego. From now on, he needs to focus on ISSUES. He has many good ones.”

^^^ This. To pick a fight with a popular, solidly conservative ally like RD is the kind of shoot-yourself-in-the-foot action that makes even Trump supporters like me cringe.
Scratching my head at this unforced error. Obviously, I’d expect Trump to lash out at RD if they were formally competing for the GOP nomination. But they’re not. Yet, anyway.


85 posted on 11/07/2022 6:36:20 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: mac_truck

And I 100% stand by that six-year-old position. Go back to 2011 and 2012 for some even more critical comments!


86 posted on 11/07/2022 6:37:32 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Alberta's Child
Cmon man...the Mooch was a train wreck from the get-go. Bolton was a known hot-head/"I'm the smartest guy in the room" sob for YEARS before 2016. I'll give you Mattis (he's a disappointment) but the pattern is obvious and clear. Ignoring a drinking problem doesn't make it go away.

I love Trump's chutzpah and how he gave voice to us Little People. He was the right man at the right time from a spiritual perspective. And he did wonders for the federal judiciary. DeSantis lacks that charisma. Noted.

But from a personnel perspective, he was tripping over coffee table after coffee table. And I disagree that DeSantis would be just as bad - Florida isn't D.C., but I haven't heard of a stream of bad personnel decisions emanating from Tallahassee. And DeSantis is getting things done that'll have lasting impact. Many are tiring of a poke in the eye that makes us warm for 3 days while a vaxx mandate is enacted.

The best explanation, is that Trump could defeat the sharks in real estate, but in DC he needed an exorcist, not Chief Brody. If Trump would acknowledge and fix this Achilles and put a sock in it, he'd own the nomination. Instead, he's effectively putting himself in for a real primary dogfight.

87 posted on 11/07/2022 6:40:57 AM PST by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Blueflag

“He took the (deliberately false) advice of people he thought he could trust - a long-running theme for him, sadly.”

What about DeSantis okaying the the eighth day campaign ad. Trump saying what he said was mild.

What would people say if that campaign ad had been about Trump? There would be weeping and wailing and how dare he.


88 posted on 11/07/2022 6:41:16 AM PST by odawg
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To: Timber Rattler

The Desantis should make it VERY clear to all, which IMO he has not, that does not intend to run in ‘24.


89 posted on 11/07/2022 6:45:59 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: NautiNurse
I omitted those details because they aren't relevant.

I clearly stated that I do NOT criticize DeSantis for any of the actions he took in terms of lockdowns, restrictions, etc.

My only comment was that he comes across as a lying fraud when he runs around today pretending he didn't impose any of those things in 2020.

90 posted on 11/07/2022 6:47:54 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: central_va

So why should he do that? It’s a free country...he can run if he wants, right? We don’t have kings here.


91 posted on 11/07/2022 6:48:41 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Alberta's Child
Doesn't look like he is dead broke... interesting funders...

https://www.transparencyusa.org/fl/pac/friends-of-ron-desantis-70275-pac

92 posted on 11/07/2022 6:50:26 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: DoodleBob
And I disagree that DeSantis would be just as bad - Florida isn't D.C., but I haven't heard of a stream of bad personnel decisions emanating from Tallahassee.

How many of DeSantis' appointees in Tallahassee required U.S. Senate confirmation?

Trump's biggest problem in D.C. is that nobody in his circle of associates would ever want to work in that dump.

DeSantis' biggest problem in D.C. would be that his appointees would all be people who WANT to work there -- for the wrong reasons.

93 posted on 11/07/2022 6:50:45 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Alberta's Child

It appears you omitted the details about the Florida Yankee invasion because they do not support your agenda. Who’s a fraud now?


94 posted on 11/07/2022 6:51:00 AM PST by NautiNurse (Ron DeSantis is Top Gov)
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To: Timber Rattler

No, it’s you neverTrumpers who need to stop the constant snarking and snide criticisms of the best leader the Republican Party since Ronald Reagan.

You neverTrumpers need to stop second guessing him and stop always trying to push alternatives to the winningest politician since George Washington.

He’s a winner. He wins everything - despite the dire warnings from you neverTrumpers.

Just let Trump be Trump.


95 posted on 11/07/2022 6:52:23 AM PST by enumerated ( )
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To: lone star annie
Thank you for posting the link.

I was half listening and lurking during the PA rally, and the wimen folk blew up in a flash of rage ... Did you hear Trump smear Desantis... Oh, my... well No I did not hear the mean, ugly, ungodly words President Trump uttered ..

Some of these same people have themselves made far worse derogatory comments over and over and over against President Trump ... hmmmm, so now Desanits has become ‘godly’ and it is blasphemy to speak against Desanits... well, now...

Soooo, given the meaning of that word sanctimonious.. fits a class of people who firmly believe they are morally superior...

I wondered what was in it for Desantis, to make a national name for himself to endorse a GOPe candidate in Colorado, whose so stated mission was to do what he could to prevent President Trump from winning another presidential election ..

Then I see the ‘Ron is God’, article linking to the campaign ad, God chose me to be a fighter.. What is the one thing that is routinely stated about President Trump ... He ‘fights’ for what he believes...

Then for a while there have been what I call rumors floating around the internet that Desantis has been hooking up with ‘lying’ Ryan, Luntz’s roommate Mcarty.. and I would not be the least surprise if Lizzy Cheney is not hiding under the blankets.. on a path to prevent President Trump from being elected president a third time.

There not one of the so called ‘presidential’ want-a-be, who can take on President Trump one on one... I contend their ‘Hail Mary’ is IF the LizCheney law class, can ‘devine’ a legal maneuver to prevent Pesident Trump from being placed on the ballot.

The snakes are slithering around in the tall grass..

96 posted on 11/07/2022 6:54:17 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Timber Rattler

Trump will be too old. If De Santis stays out of a pissing contest with Trump, DeSantis will win in 2024.


97 posted on 11/07/2022 6:55:53 AM PST by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: Timber Rattler

GMAFB.

In all likelihood this is all coordinated. Very shrewd.

3D Chess, and they both know it & mad as hell about it.


98 posted on 11/07/2022 6:56:07 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Timber Rattler

Before I even think about DeSantis I want to know where he stands on these endless neocon wars. Until he addresses that issue he is irrelevant to me.


99 posted on 11/07/2022 6:57:10 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: NautiNurse
Ron DeSantis issued a statewide stay at home order on April 1, 2020. None of this had anything to do with a "Yankee invasion." Otherwise, there would have been no reason to let people go to work at their own place of employment -- where visitors from other states wouldn't have been showing up anyway.

1. Please tell me how many "Yankees" were invading Florida in March and April of 2020.

2. Why didn't he shut down the airports and quarantine every traveler arriving from other states for the same 30 days he was locking Florida residents down?

3. Restaurants and grocery stores -- the places where these "Yankees" were most likely to show up -- exempt from these lockdowns.

Stop posting excuses for DeSantis that are easily refuted by a simple review of the facts. I'd have far more respect for DeSantis and his supporters if they all just owned up to the decisions he made instead of lying about them.

100 posted on 11/07/2022 6:59:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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